Man City v Arsenal
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But the argument in that case he kicked it and may not heard the whistle and I stand by the fact it's not really going to delay the game and the referee could just add an extra 30 seconds anyways. I just think if the referee did nothing there, nobody would of batted an eyelid.
I thought Oliver did well in what looked at times a tough game to referee. Walker has only himself to blame for not being more alert for the first goal, he had plenty of time to get into position but didn't and paid the price basically.
ladbroke8745
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Is that the city player who threw the ball at an arsenal player from inside the goal?
Applause all round if it is still being enforced come the 38th game of the season.
Feels like we are in that phase of the season where everything is strictly enforced and then theres a slow deterioration over the season.
Lots to learn here, MO calls KWP 15 yards to him, when he was in his own half, noting KWP had not committed the foul, but as captain was asked to assist the referee’s match control, then allows Arsenal to take free kick 10 yards ahead of correct position, not allowing KWP to get back in position & be in his defensive position, before he was called in.
Arguably, the kick was taken before MO was even ready, so undoubtedly should have been called back.
I know some would suggest KWP dawdled but he was inconvenienced by assisting the referee so MO should have checked his position, which he didn't as he had his back to him.
Broadcasters won't be impressed if soft red cards are ruining top games. Fortunately because of Arsenal's heroic defending and City unable to get the equaliser until right at the end, it meant there was still some interest but as a neutral, it was dissapointing such a promising top game was somewhat ruined because of a dubious second yellow card.
Just to note, I'm all for second yellow cards if a player deliberately blocks the ball or kicks it away from the spot where a free kick is taken or holding onto the ball for a prolonged period of time but in this case, I think if Michael Oliver let that go, nobody would be complaining.
They aren’t and pundits are correctly blaming players for this. Stupid decision to kick it away.
I'm less concerned about what the broadcasters think.
What I am more concerned about is the lack of consistency in the application of DTR, without dragging up some skeletons, Declan Rice was sent off in the same game that Joao Pedro avoided a booking after kicking a ball a good 50 yards and then today we see Trossard sent off for a near identical situation, and yet we still see the petulant kicking away of the ball going unpunished.
If they are going to focus on, and penalise, DTR this season then they need to focus on the full criteria and get a serious grip on players leaving the ball at throw ins, players slowly walking off when subbed and the most frustrating... goalkeeper restarts who appear to only be guilty of DTR in the final 5 minutes of matches
Few comments.
If you’re sending off trossard after not booking a city player for delaying the start earlier then you are asking for trouble.
I think walker got back into position and actually defended free kick.
Haarland lucky not to be sent off for violent conduct after throwing the ball at the back of the head of Gabrielle.
As for Arsenal “cramps”. They had to substitute 3 players because of it so maybe not all fake.
Also interesting stat given that the ball was in play for 35 minutes that half which is the highest this season in any match.
Personally, I don’t want to see red cards like that, but then the laws and if trossard did hear the whistle he had to go.
If you’re sending off trossard after not booking a city player for delaying the start earlier then you are asking for trouble.
I think walker got back into position and actually defended free kick.
Haarland lucky not to be sent off for violent conduct after throwing the ball at the back of the head of Gabrielle.
As for Arsenal “cramps”. They had to substitute 3 players because of it so maybe not all fake.
Also interesting stat given that the ball was in play for 35 minutes that half which is the highest this season in any match.
Personally, I don’t want to see red cards like that, but then the laws and if trossard did hear the whistle he had to go.
Feels like we are verging into fans forum territory
Guess so. I still think these players are idiots for making the ref have to make a decision. Enough
However, what infuriates fans is lack of consistency by referees. As referees we know this on the pitch too. We get the players saying why is that a foul and that isn’t?
Is it wrong to expect consistency by our top referees?
Would really like to hear the communication between the team for Doku kicking the ball away Vs Trossard.
Back to my love for consistency. Yet again, zero consistency in the same game, by the same ref/team and that's when fans, players and managers are getting frustrated. This then leads to the conspiracy theories and all sorts.
Back to my love for consistency. Yet again, zero consistency in the same game, by the same ref/team and that's when fans, players and managers are getting frustrated. This then leads to the conspiracy theories and all sorts.
Good luck to any grassroots ref who tries to enforce the 8 second rule…
We Are. Dealing.
ladbroke8745
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Whole different game (apparently) between what you see on Sky and what you see down the local Park.
In this case, however, from catching, and falling to ground, before release, majority of the time Raya held the ball for a good 20-25 seconds if not more.
He knew what he was doing. He had full control of the ball and was under absolutely no pressure at all. No need for that blatant time wasting.
What's the point of that 8 second rule if you're not going to apply it?
I don't think I have ever seen the 8 second, or its predecessor the 6 second rule, being enforced. But then again, this feels like the tip of the iceberg of unenforced rules, particularly in the professional game.
The professional game has a serious issue with time wasting
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Am I missing something, or are you talking about the six second rule? But, c’mon, the ship has long sailed on enforcing that in the professional game. I can only think of one example of it ever being called in a pro game—in the WWC. You can’t blame the R for doing what every other professional ref in the world is doing.
Should this change? IMO, yes, but that’s really a different discussion.iMO, it should be 10 seconds, with a visible count toward the end, and the consequence should be either a CK or an IFK at the nearest edge of the PA—to soften the messy consequences that can make Rs reluctant to call it.
Should this change? IMO, yes, but that’s really a different discussion.iMO, it should be 10 seconds, with a visible count toward the end, and the consequence should be either a CK or an IFK at the nearest edge of the PA—to soften the messy consequences that can make Rs reluctant to call it.