Mex v Eng
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Regarding the Referee, I thought the most important consideration was that his personality suited the occasion. Nothing else really mattered
The England team did themselves proud. Unrecognizable to the Sir Southgate's tenue. They would've fallen apart under his watch
I don't like having a German manager, but an exception may be needed if they remain exceptional
The ignorance of dissent, crowding the referee and general stupidity at PK's is lamentable. What chance does our National FA have in terms of us managing all this nonsense when it's absolutely rife on TV. The games have been enjoyable, but dealing with this misbehaviour would not have spoilt things for the TV market. Instead, the never ending childish culture is well and truly preserved and always will be
The England team did themselves proud. Unrecognizable to the Sir Southgate's tenue. They would've fallen apart under his watch
I don't like having a German manager, but an exception may be needed if they remain exceptional
The ignorance of dissent, crowding the referee and general stupidity at PK's is lamentable. What chance does our National FA have in terms of us managing all this nonsense when it's absolutely rife on TV. The games have been enjoyable, but dealing with this misbehaviour would not have spoilt things for the TV market. Instead, the never ending childish culture is well and truly preserved and always will be
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As an Englishman, I'm praying that neither Oliver, Taylor or Turpin are "eligible" for the final.
I did spot that(commentators certainly didn't) and as the video above shows the Mexican player just kicked off with the ball at this feet yet your post seem to imply the ref was wrong to blow and give the free kick to England?
I only watched the highlights, had a meeting this morning that was way too important to risk it with disrupted sleep, but the red card and penalty look nailed on. I know there's an argument the penalty wasn't a clear and obvious error, but I suspect VAR said did you see him kick his foot. Once the referee says no there's an argument to say it isn't re-refereeing as he didn't actually see the offence.
Looks like the referee did well overall, but at the end of the day he got two KMIs wrong and, unless they have changed how it works, that means the maximum mark he can get is 7.5. That's a go home immediately mark, not progress to the quarter finals, but I guess anything is possible at this World Cup.
Looks like the referee did well overall, but at the end of the day he got two KMIs wrong and, unless they have changed how it works, that means the maximum mark he can get is 7.5. That's a go home immediately mark, not progress to the quarter finals, but I guess anything is possible at this World Cup.
LothianRef
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I remember you said similar about Clement Turpin after the opening game of Euro 2024 yet he still went on to do another group stage game and a knock out game. I appreciate that was UEFA and this is FIFA though.
Fair point, and as I said they might have changed it. But referees' marks shouldn't be protected by VAR bailing them out, otherwise they will be getting rewarded for other people's work and that can't be right. Without VAR this referee would have made two incorrect KMDs, granted one of them a lot more obvious than the other.
ladbroke8745
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Anyone surprised?
I think the phrase Pandora's box has been opened...
Agree. Hopefully we can get 1 or James or Spence can be fit and we can play Guehi and Konsa.
How is this high threshold defined?
Absolutely.
Currently I can't see anybody out there capable of beating them before the final and I want us to lift the trophy by beating the best so that's how it has to be.
I don't think we'll make the final but if we did, I'd hope we'd play the best team in it.
The hand of god would be a high threshold - clear & obvious. Two boots coming from different players at near enough the same time is not a high threshold - not clear & obvious.
Is there no literal guidance?
ladbroke8745
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Love seeing how Americans (on social media who are using American Football terms in their arguments) say that Quansah challenge was "sky high" and dangerous but Baloguns wasn't.
Now. I called red card on first replay. Even in group chats I said this is dangerous. It should go to VAR.
It did. It was given as red (rightfully).
However. The arguments are that Balogun was accidental, he didnt mean it blah blah blah. I'm guessing Quansah didnt either.
But this particular still of Baloguns challenge shows a near straight, outstretched, leg with studs into the Bosnian ankle/calf forcing ankle to bend, as the weight of Balogun continues to go down, and thankfully not snap.
How anyone can argue its not a red is beyond me. The law states about endangering the safety of an opponent. This does just that.
Now the Quansah challenge is similar in that his studs make flat contact with his opponent. Challenge was a bit fast too but so was the game.
If you look at the two challenges freeze frames...
Point of impact/contact is exactly same area.
Only difference was angle of impact.
Now. I called red card on first replay. Even in group chats I said this is dangerous. It should go to VAR.
It did. It was given as red (rightfully).
However. The arguments are that Balogun was accidental, he didnt mean it blah blah blah. I'm guessing Quansah didnt either.
But this particular still of Baloguns challenge shows a near straight, outstretched, leg with studs into the Bosnian ankle/calf forcing ankle to bend, as the weight of Balogun continues to go down, and thankfully not snap.
How anyone can argue its not a red is beyond me. The law states about endangering the safety of an opponent. This does just that.
Now the Quansah challenge is similar in that his studs make flat contact with his opponent. Challenge was a bit fast too but so was the game.
If you look at the two challenges freeze frames...
Point of impact/contact is exactly same area.
Only difference was angle of impact.
There may be, but even if there are, it may just be verbal from Collina to his Referees, though even when I was on NLN&S as an Observer, although a high threshold for pulling/holding etc was required, it was never specifically defined what this high threshold equated to & no literal guidance.
Attempting to write literal guidance would be a mega challenge
Definitely. I remember having been used to an Observers Handbook for L3-6, when I was first promoted onto NLN/S & asked whether there was a similar handbook for L2B’s (as they were known at the time), I was looked at as if I had come from Mars!Attempting to write literal guidance would be a mega challenge
