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Newcastle Vs Aston Villa- Duran Red Card

Red?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 56.1%
  • No

    Votes: 18 43.9%

  • Total voters
    41
That's where I'm at. There was ample opportunity for him to avoid that contact on the back.

Not things we can consider on the pitch as referees, but Duran's head was gone from when he felt he was humiliated at a free kick a few minutes before, plus he has history for this kind of thing. Absolutely no doubt in my mind that the red mist descended and he lost it.
A good guess. A guess I would agree with. Still a guess though
 
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A good guess. A guess I would agree with. Still a guess though
Yeah, but you are guessing either way. Plus here I think the immediate reaction of most people was red, it is only the multiple replays from several angles that call it into any question. Whether it was a guess or not, Taylor had to make a decision and I personally think he made the right one. Also questions the theory that referees don't make a decision and reply on VAR, but that is a different debate.

I watched it in a pub in Spain in the middle of Newcastle and Villa fans and the conclusion of everyone was that he would be walking. I said it straight away, but by the time the first replay had ended the Geordies were screaming off and the Villa fans had their heads in their hands.
 
Yeah, but you are guessing either way. Plus here I think the immediate reaction of most people was red, it is only the multiple replays from several angles that call it into any question. Whether it was a guess or not, Taylor had to make a decision and I personally think he made the right one. Also questions the theory that referees don't make a decision and reply on VAR, but that is a different debate.

I watched it in a pub in Spain in the middle of Newcastle and Villa fans and the conclusion of everyone was that he would be walking. I said it straight away, but by the time the first replay had ended the Geordies were screaming off and the Villa fans had their heads in their hands.
I wouldn’t say the immediate reaction of most on here being red. As things stand, the poll is literally 50/50.
 
Yeah, but you are guessing either way. Plus here I think the immediate reaction of most people was red, it is only the multiple replays from several angles that call it into any question. Whether it was a guess or not, Taylor had to make a decision and I personally think he made the right one. Also questions the theory that referees don't make a decision and reply on VAR, but that is a different debate.

I watched it in a pub in Spain in the middle of Newcastle and Villa fans and the conclusion of everyone was that he would be walking. I said it straight away, but by the time the first replay had ended the Geordies were screaming off and the Villa fans had their heads in their hands.

On the first point, I always find Taylor is not afraid to produce a red if he feels he needs too, whether he made this decision purely on his own or with help we may never know. However I do suspect with the more recent PL referees who joined around 2018 so just before VAR was introduced are less likely to go red right away. I have my doubts if Peter Bankes was reffing that game he would of went red first but who knows.

I have went I didn't think it was a red because of the slip however I don't have any issues with Taylor thinking it's a red. A different VAR may of noticed that and may of recommended a review, of course Graham Scott may of noticed it and still stuck with the on field decision. Be interesting if this gets mentioned on the next mic'd up programme or not.
 
I went no on the poll. As it looked like he was off balance and he tried to put his studs up to avoid the player.

However, what I didn't have was context. I guess if you think the player had lost his head and was just looking to leave one on. Then it changes the decision a little.
 
I went no on the poll. As it looked like he was off balance and he tried to put his studs up to avoid the player.

However, what I didn't have was context. I guess if you think the player had lost his head and was just looking to leave one on. Then it changes the decision a little.
Exactly ! There seems to be too many armchair decisions, rather than trusting the refs judgement. Taylor may well have heard and seen some banter between the two and knew Duran was about to lose his head
 
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