Man Utd v Leicester City

[BCMilan]

Offside for Maguire's winner ? #discuss

 

[RustyRef]

It was a clear error, he must have switched off. That game would have had VAR last season but people argued it should be used in all games or no games.

The line isn’t mine, just copied it off a site.

 

[BCMilan]

You've gotta feel for Leicester. I guarantee, if that was one of the big 6 all hell would broken loose in the media.

 

[ARF]

Issue is that Maguire's blocking the AR's view of where the offside line is. Not giving something because your view is obscured is understandable - giving it on a guess is less so.

 

[Runner Ref]

At that level, that is offside by a long way.

 

[Archer]

Absolute clanger tbh

 

[one]

Issue is that Maguire's blocking the AR's view of where the offside line is. Not giving something because your view is obscured is understandable

Don't agree. It's like not seeing the forest for the trees.
If AR is in a good position, any attacker blocking the view for offside line would be in an offside position.

 

[ARF]

If AR is in a good position, any attacker blocking the view for offside line would be in an offside position.

No, as there can quite easily be a defender in line with the attacker, therefore playing him onside. Point being how can an AR honestly say a player is offside when they can't see where the second last defender is?

 

[Paul_10]

I think the camera angle makes Maguire look more offside than he is, I think with VAR it would show offside but I don't think the gap is as big as it looks personally. We will never know sadly but if I was a Leicester fan, I be annoyed with the award of a free kick before hand, never a handball(based on the high threshold), ball smacked off his elbow fromm fairly short distance, I doubt that would get given as a penalty and it looks the classic, it's easier to give a handball in that area than in the 18 yard box.

 

[one]

No, as there can quite easily be a defender in line with the attacker, therefore playing him onside. Point being how can an AR honestly say a player is offside when they can't see where the second last defender is?

The AR should adapt their position to cater for that. In this case he should have been about a yard closer to gola line.
Your logic basically means the AR can rarely call and attacker offside if he is closer to AR than some other defenders around the offside line which is a common occurrence.

 

[Runner Ref]

Offside decisions like this being wrong are far more palatable when in open play. But direct from a set piece is a lot less forgiving

 

[RustyRef]

Issue is that Maguire's blocking the AR's view of where the offside line is. Not giving something because your view is obscured is understandable - giving it on a guess is less so.

And that is all it can have been, a guess that someone hidden by Maguire's not inconsiderable bulk was playing him onside. I can't really see top level assistants guessing like that and it is more likely he just momentarily switched off..

 

[DJIC]

It is clearly a bad error from AR. , but sympathy to Leicester & to the AR.

I suspect we have all made blunders in our referee careers but not at this elite high profile level, a match defining error on live TV. He will be mortified & be with him for his whole career.

So different to a player, who can lose his team a match but make up for it in the next few matches by scoring crucial goals or match winning saves etc. A match official can follow this error with every match thereafter an outstanding 10 out of 10 but this error always highlighted as season defining.

 

[RefereeX]

It is clearly a bad error from AR. , but sympathy to Leicester & to the AR.

I suspect we have all made blunders in our referee careers but not at this elite high profile level, a match defining error on live TV. He will be mortified & be with him for his whole career.

So different to a player, who can lose his team a match but make up for it in the next few matches by scoring crucial goals or match winning saves etc. A match official can follow this error with every match thereafter an outstanding 10 out of 10 but this error always highlighted as season defining.

My first step 2 line in front of over 1000 fans I disallowed 2 goals for offside, both for the same player.
The first one I thought was a good 2 yards offside. It was as close as could be, but supportable.
The second one, I panicked and guessed, and he was actually at least 2 yards onside.
I’ve learned a hell of a lot from that, but if I’m unsure, I’d far rather be in the boat of the AR on this game that missed the offside than be in the boat I was in where I’ve guessed and invented an offside that didn’t happen!