France vs England

[Deleted member 2447]

PK or not it was a foul and the ref has done himself no favours in considering only if a PK or not. Add that to a couple of other dubious calls within 10yds of the French penalty area and it's not been the best start. (By any of the massive refereeing team)

 

[santa sangria]

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That doesn’t show the first contact though.

 

[santa sangria]

A proper YC for greizemann. Good work.

 

[ladbroke8745]

That doesn’t show the first contact though.

First contact? Does it matter?
If a foul continues into the box then a penalty would be awarded.

 

[JamesL]

First contact? Does it matter?
If a foul continues into the box then a penalty would be awarded.

Only really explicit for holding offences

 

[ladbroke8745]

Even if it was outside, I remember a different game where a penalty review occurred but a free kick was given as a foul appeared to happen before the pen shout shown on VAR.
Surely the ref can check and deem if its in or out himself and give accordingly.

 

[socal lurker]

First contact? Does it matter?
If a foul continues into the box then a penalty would be awarded.

Only holding is a continuing foul. The question is the point of contact that the R deems is a trip/kick.

 

[bester]

Very annoying habit of gesturing to players to get up, he's even played advantage after doing it a couple of times.

 

[ladbroke8745]

Only really explicit for holding offences

But not solely?

 

[socal lurker]

Even if it was outside, I remember a different game where a penalty review occurred but a free kick was given as a foul appeared to happen before the pen shout shown on VAR.
Surely the ref can check and deem if its in or out himself and give accordingly.

The VaR can only send it down if the VAR believes it is clear and obvious it is a PK. But if it is sent down, the R can decide the foul occurred but was outside. It’s a quirk.

 

[ladbroke8745]

Only holding is a continuing foul. The question is the point of contact that the R deems is a trip/kick.

But if he is kicked just before and just after the line surely you'd be giving a penalty as what I think should have been.

 

[Viking]

It's not a head injury. More incompetence.

 

[socal lurker]

But if he is kicked just before and just after the line surely you'd be giving a penalty as what I think should have been.

If ITOOTR the second contact was itself a foul, yes.

 

[es1]

Two 50/50 decisions gone against us, I say 50/50, both are fouls

 

[JamesL]

It's not a head serious injury. More incompetence.

If we're going to be factually correct.

 

[santa sangria]

Terrible dropped ball. The players are toying with him. They know the law. It’s a little thing where you want the referee to show authority.

The goal - yes, foul on Saka, but can VAR go back that far?
The penalty - I presume first contact outside.

But both cases there is an AR and ref and they should be spotting these easy fouls in a match this big.

The foul on Saka is right in front of the AR and he has nothing else to look at. Poor.

 

[bester]

In the EPL they wouldnt go back that far which is maybe why England weren't complaining more. The lack of reaction probably influences the VAR.

 

[cwyeary]

Sampaio simply isn't a WC ref much less a QF one. It pays to have someone like Seneme on the committee.

 

[es1]

Terrible dropped ball. The players are toying with him. They know the law. It’s a little thing where you want the referee to show authority.

The goal - yes, foul on Saka, but can VAR go back that far?
The penalty - I presume first contact outside.

But both cases there is an AR and ref and they should be spotting these easy fouls in a match this big.

The foul on Saka is right in front of the AR and he has nothing else to look at. Poor.

Yeah you definitely can. Until England win the ball back its still reviewable

 

[JamesL]

Terrible dropped ball. The players are toying with him. They know the law. It’s a little thing where you want the referee to show authority.

The goal - yes, foul on Saka, but can VAR go back that far?
The penalty - I presume first contact outside.

But both cases there is an AR and ref and they should be spotting these easy fouls in a match this big.

The foul on Saka is right in front of the AR and he has nothing else to look at. Poor.

Assistant referee only need to say foul down the Comms. He's just looking at the referee and doesn't appear to be offering an opinion.