Oh for sure. Ref/AR clearly miss it. It is a clear foul though or at very least piadm.
Forest Vs Liverpool
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I’d love to see this incident of the dropped ball to see where it should have been dropped and who to for sure, but can’t find it anywhere.
Mark Clattenburg has now weighed in saying that the referee was incorrect in law by dropping it to the Liverpool keeper.
One thing I will say, and I’m not defending Tierney if it was an error in law, but blaming conceding a goal on a ball being dropped to a goalkeeper is a p*ss poor excuse, but one that is the easy option.
Mark Clattenburg has now weighed in saying that the referee was incorrect in law by dropping it to the Liverpool keeper.
One thing I will say, and I’m not defending Tierney if it was an error in law, but blaming conceding a goal on a ball being dropped to a goalkeeper is a p*ss poor excuse, but one that is the easy option.
It's probably fair to say if the ref drops the ball to forest then Liverpool probably don't score.
It's also 100% accurate to say forest had possession between play restarting and the goal, and two opportunities to clear immediately prior to the goal, and Liverpool had a throw in. So the 'error' doesn't lead to the goal.
What worries me, is players feigning head injuries just so that they can stop the game. That's a really low thing to do. Perhaps the LOTG should be changed, so that any player that suffers this injury should be removed from the FOP so that the medics can take a look at them ?
See 3 posts above
Therealcjhill
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This showed the problem with players feigning injury to alleviate the pressure, player got straight back up. Could have even been a penalty. Forrest player clearly had the ball when whistle was blown. The difference between dropping ball to keeper or player on the wing with 90s to play is night and day. It’s a game changer from Tierney
They wouldn’t have, but that doesn’t mean it’s reasonable to blame a referee for a goal you had plenty of opportunity to avoid.
Es1 sums it up perfectly
Incorrect application of law from Tierney, and not a difficult one to get right, but still doesn’t mean he’s solely responsible for the goal.
Therealcjhill
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Not solely responsible but he’s had a massive influence and that can’t be right.
ladbroke8745
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Saw another tweet with better sound quality ..
Whistle goes (11 seconds in) BEFORE the ball leaves the area.
Whistle goes (11 seconds in) BEFORE the ball leaves the area.
ladbroke8745
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Also, of course Clattenburg is going to say the ref was wrong etc...
He's hardly going to say "nah, he's right, we lost fair and square" to his employers.
He needs to justify his wages.
He's hardly going to say "nah, he's right, we lost fair and square" to his employers.
He needs to justify his wages.
I disagree with your use of the word ‘massive’. Forest still largely had their destiny in their own hands.
He can come out and explain why they are upset without stating that the referee was wrong in law, especially if, as you say, he wasn’t…
Another case of a former referee more than willing to throw current referees under the bus, presumably failing to realise how much harder it is to be a premier league referee now than it was in his day.
(And if somebody says ‘it’s not harder now, they have VAR to save them’ I’ll explode)
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I’d not actually seen the entire incident before, only the aftermath. From what I can tell he stops play with the ball in the penalty area? Perhaps it would have been more sensible to delay blowing the whistle until the Forest player had revived the ball on the wing, but he didn’t and so, and I’m happy to be corrected on this if I’m missing something glaringly obvious, it’s the correct decision.
ladbroke8745
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But if he delays it with a player, for whatever reason, laying on the floor in the middle of the 6 yard box and the cross comes in, that puts him in more danger.
Should have, and clearly did, blow immediately regardless.
According to Sunday Mail reporter Tom Collomosse, "Liverpool keeper should have returned posession "as the rules require" but instead passed to a team-mate"
Clattenburg was last seen wandering around the City ground telling everyone who would listen that he is a qualified referee and he is going to send a report in.
Clattenburg was last seen wandering around the City ground telling everyone who would listen that he is a qualified referee and he is going to send a report in.
The video from the previously posted link would make it seem he didn’t blow until after the forest player touched the ball on the wing, this is why there’s confusion as to whether or not it was correct
He doesn’t, this is edited (likely why they zoom in to keep the referee off the screen). If you watch the full footage, there’s no whistle and he doesn’t put the whistle to his mouth either
The Ginger Ref
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Just watched the incident on MOTD, the whistle isn't blown until the ball gets to the Forest player, he does touch the ball before the whistle. However, Tierney's attention is probably on the 'injured' player, not who touches the ball last.
The drop ball to the keeper is IMHO the easiest and least contentious choice (unless you're a Forest fan). Whilst correct in law, imagine Tierney dropping the ball to a Forest player 20 yards out from goal in the 90+ minute for them to score. Klopp would have a seizure.
There is considerable time between the drop ball and the goal going in, this included Forest trying to dribble the ball out of their own box twice instead of clearing their lines and securing the draw.
If anything, there should be more focus put on Konate for simulation as he goes down holding his head under very minimal contact, Tierney has no choice but to stop the game, however, he could've 'sold' his decision better by waving on the physio for a head injury (IMHO) and having Konate taken off the pitch.
The drop ball to the keeper is IMHO the easiest and least contentious choice (unless you're a Forest fan). Whilst correct in law, imagine Tierney dropping the ball to a Forest player 20 yards out from goal in the 90+ minute for them to score. Klopp would have a seizure.
There is considerable time between the drop ball and the goal going in, this included Forest trying to dribble the ball out of their own box twice instead of clearing their lines and securing the draw.
If anything, there should be more focus put on Konate for simulation as he goes down holding his head under very minimal contact, Tierney has no choice but to stop the game, however, he could've 'sold' his decision better by waving on the physio for a head injury (IMHO) and having Konate taken off the pitch.
santa sangria
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Law 9
The ball is out of play… when play had been stopped by the referee
The LotG do not say “… by the referee’s whistle”.
This is not the first time this has come up. The referee decides when play is stopped.
The ball is out of play… when play had been stopped by the referee
The LotG do not say “… by the referee’s whistle”.
This is not the first time this has come up. The referee decides when play is stopped.
