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Getafe Vs Real Betis

Red or Yellow

  • Red

    Votes: 12 50.0%

  • Yellow

    Votes: 12 50.0%
  • Total voters
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Red for me. Coward’s challenge.

Edit: I'll back my reasoning up in Law as we all should. Endangering the safety of an opponent (with a sliding lunge towards and into his achilles)
 
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Looks red in real time but when you see it slower it looks incredibly harsh in terms of the limited contact.
2 things though, which I would say:
1) The ball is a country mile away from the challenge, which increases the likelihood of a red.
2) It's not a great look for a referee to run over with his yellow in one hand and then shock everyone by showing the red with the other hand (unless of course issuing a second caution)
 
The only reason I thought it would be interesting is, as per usual, the wider football fanbases have no idea on why a referee has made a decision.
 
Red. Endangering the safety of an opponent. I could understand if the referee went yellow due to the limited contact but for me the right decision is red card. No chance of winning the ball either, which I'd argue in this specific case is 100% a factor in going red as it is dangerous.
 
Red for me, zero attempt to play the ball. As mentioned on numerous previous topics, I have no time for this kind of challenge where they are just kicking an opponent.
 
I’m not convinced that in law it can be classed SFP due to the contact being fairly minimal. But I agree with Rusty that I’d like these challenges to be a red out of principal (similar to MLS challenge).
 
Mind you:

If that was seen on a Sunday morning at the dog and duck - still a red? (probably more so).

If that was seen on a Supply or Contrib League game from the stand without a clear view would/should an Observer support or not support a red.

If that was seen on a National League N/S game with footage available on MOAS with a referral required to the MCS panel, who give benefit of doubt to the Referee, would/should Observer support a red.

If that was seen on PL - is it likely a Referee would award a red & if so, would it be sent to VAR and what would the likely outcome be.

Probably yes for red on first 3 & haven’t a clue with number 4.
 
I think red card also but what's the difference between this and Lewis Skelly's red card?

I suspect most refs in the PL would give yellow in all honesty.
 
JamesL said:
Agree. Likelihood is he is going yellow and assistant referee is screaming red down the Comms.
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Not saying it's the case here, but something I've seen with the non - FIFA refs in Spain is that they keep both cards and a notepad in one chest pocket. Incredibly confusing at times.

And then of course there's Hernandez-Hernandez who never writes down anyone he books, but he also never forgets who's already been booked
 
What makes this red for me is that it is a tackle from behind. It give the opponet no chance to avoid it. The laws used to specifically mention tackles from behind. Though it is removed now, the concept still stands.
 
Making a footballing action just to hurt someone is just a way of trying to hide violent conduct.

Like driving your car into someone and claiming you're just popping to the shops.
 
OnlyUseMeWhistle said:
Making a footballing action just to hurt someone is just a way of trying to hide violent conduct.

Like driving your car into someone and claiming you're just popping to the shops.
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No way there’s enough for to be violent conduct. It merely being off the ball isn’t enough to be excessive force. Willie Collum basically covered this when talking about an incident on the Scottish VAR show
 
It's a red for me because it's clear what he intends to do, has no desire/chance to play the ball and simply gets lucky there's so little contact., though in my local Dog & Duck league I'd fully anticipate me getting a mark of 60 by the offender's team.

If there was no contact whatsoever I'm still YC'ing for DP.
 
Runner Ref said:
No way there’s enough for to be violent conduct. It merely being off the ball isn’t enough to be excessive force. Willie Collum basically covered this when talking about an incident on the Scottish VAR show
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If I stand next to a player, and as he kicks the ball away I swing my foot at him but pull out at the last minute or slow down to make minimal contact. Justify showing me a yellow card plz
 
I have also just seen that the decision was overturned by the Spanish FA, definitely has me a little confused.
 
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