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Definite foul on raya for me, said it as soon as I saw the replay. Need to look at the impact all the alleged fouls would have had. Raya isn't impeded - he catches the ball and rice's foul has no impact. Similarly the other grappling for me doesn't affect any of the players ability to play the balled based on what has/hasn't been given this season
 
Definite foul on raya for me, said it as soon as I saw the replay. Need to look at the impact all the alleged fouls would have had. Raya isn't impeded - he catches the ball and rice's foul has no impact. Similarly the other grappling for me doesn't affect any of the players ability to play the balled based on what has/hasn't been given this season
This reads like - "A foul is only a foul when having a direct impact on the game".
This could be the latest in a long list of crazy and poorly worded amendments by IFAB. Perhaps it could be a directive for next season. (rice's foul has no impact).
Certainly would save us all a a lot of time arguing about and discussing such incidents. 🤣
 
This reads like - "A foul is only a foul when having a direct impact on the game".
This could be the latest in a long list of crazy and poorly worded amendments by IFAB. Perhaps it could be a directive for next season. (rice's foul has no impact).
Certainly would save us all a a lot of time arguing about and discussing such incidents. 🤣
the Forrest one v Chelsea had no impact. he was not getting to it. cross was over hit.
 
It makes no difference whether it was a foul or not. I couldn't care less. What bothers me, as it always does, is nobody is talking about the football
The celebrity referees and VAR are always top of the bill. The game is eating itself from within

I didn't watch the game. I haven't seen the incident. I'm past caring. The Boreham Wood v Rochdale final is the game I used to love

Issue is, if we had no VAR and that goal was given, Arsenal would be furious and their be pundits out there saying referees need help, how can they see what's going on with all the carnage.

I don't find it surprising one iota that the reaction seems to be yes it's probably a foul but where is the consistency instead of praising VAR on intervening on what would be a goal that should not be given. I'm sick of people going on about consistency, we will never get perfection, never have and never will.
 
Issue is, if we had no VAR and that goal was given, Arsenal would be furious and their be pundits out there saying referees need help, how can they see what's going on with all the carnage.

I don't find it surprising one iota that the reaction seems to be yes it's probably a foul but where is the consistency instead of praising VAR on intervening on what would be a goal that should not be given. I'm sick of people going on about consistency, we will never get perfection, never have and never will.
Agree, and I keep coming back to the fact that people wanted VAR to correct mistakes, and I dare say this incident would have been classed as such a mistake pre-VAR had the goal been allowed.

For me it is a very clear foul, and if Chris Kavanagh has said to VAR that he didn't see the arm across Raya's chest / neck and / or his shirt being pulled it feels that a VAR intervention was inevitable
 
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