No chanceYikes. Never a penalty
Not a penalty? You can't elbow someone in the face and not get penalised for it, unintentional or not!Yikes. Never a penalty
I’m not sure VAR would get involved if there was no nose bleed.Not a clear and obvious error to award it for me. Both players elbows are up, and I know not handball but in a justifiable position for someone jumping for the ball.
Fine if you want to give a pen, but not one for VAR to get involved in.
No, what Schick has done isn't a foul. Lovren has elbowed the opponent in the face. That is not the same thing.They were both guilty of exactly the same thing. Jumping with leverage
All players jump exactly the same. It's ridiculous to expect players to jump without using their arms for leverage. That said, I'm just about OK with a PK, as Loveren was more physical than the defender, but it was pure chance as to whose not got bumpedDespite the amount of blood, there didn't seem to be a huge amount of force, which is what probably saved Lovren from a red. You can't allow players to jump like that and elbow an opponent in the face with no fear of it being called - player safety.
I know what you're saying, but it's the sorta thing that only exists in Referee's minds. Any player/manager/pundit would disagree and I'd side with themNo, what Schick has done isn't a foul. Lovren has elbowed the opponent in the face. That is not the same thing.
Sure, you can jump that way, but you have to take care of where your elbows when doing it. The failure to take care not to hit an opponent in the face made it (at least) careless--hence a careless striking foul. (And the caution tells us, ITOOTR, it went beyond careless to reckless.)All players jump exactly the same. It's ridiculous to expect players to jump without using their arms for leverage. That said, I'm just about OK with a PK, as Loveren was more physical than the defender, but it was pure chance as to whose not got bumped
I thought the same though. Silly yellow card to pickup, when all goals are checked. Irrelevant to the fact of VAR he wasnt even close to offside either.
Exactly, it's not like it was just a stray arm that caught him - it's the point of his elbow being drawn back and hitting the opponent in the face, with sufficient force to bust his nose.Sure, you can jump that way, but you have to take care of where your elbows when doing it. The failure to take care not to hit an opponent in the face made it (at least) careless--hence a careless striking foul. (And the caution tells us, ITOOTR, it went beyond careless to reckless.)
But why was the PK taker allowed to continue with blood still dripping down his face?
Yeh, I can accept that. But I'm not sure a natural action is careless, let alone reckless. Jumping with leverage is a natural actionSure, you can jump that way, but you have to take care of where your elbows when doing it. The failure to take care not to hit an opponent in the face made it (at least) careless--hence a careless striking foul. (And the caution tells us, ITOOTR, it went beyond careless to reckless.)
But why was the PK taker allowed to continue with blood still dripping down his face?
No chance
VAR wouldn’t have been involved if there was no nosebleed.