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Women World Cup 2019

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I was in Glasgow this week, you’ve to walk a line of impartiality talking to both sides of the City, it’s quite tribal!
 
Peter Grove said:
I'm sorry, but you've just posted a picture of the ball hitting her arm while it is close to her body and when it was kicked at her by an opponent from close range. Incidentally, 'close' does not mean 'pinned tight against the body,' it just means not too far away from the body, which this player's arm is not, at least as far as I'm concerned. As others have pointed out, the IFAB had specifically said that the new laws would mean players did not have to run around with their arms pinned to their sides, to avoid being penalised for handling.

I wouldn't have said this is handball even under the new laws. They say that:


The explanation goes on to say that:


The ball was kicked at this player by "another player who is close" and for me, her arm was both close to her body and in a natural position, or at least certainly not in what the explanation says is the unnatural position of above the level of her shoulder.

Maybe I'm reading this completely wrong but I thought this was actually a fairly clear example of what is not supposed to be handball under the new laws.
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Exactly this. If an attacker kicks the ball at a defender at close range the defender has no chance to move their limbs in time. I cannot see how this wording has been overlooked in the decision. Unless your arms are doing something ridiculous (Tottenham vs Man City in the Champions League Final) a close range 'ball to hand' is accidental so shouldn't be punished
 
Trip said:
Have they allowed rings to be taped up?

An England player had a nose stud in the last match.
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There's nothing under the tape. Sergio Ramos has done it for years, but it seems to be more prevalent in the Women's game. Not dissimilar to players wearing tape on their wrists, when you see them take it off at the end of the game or when they have been subbed there is nothing under it.

Didn't see the nose stud, are you sure it was during the game and not during the warm up? If not then the officials have obvious missed it.
 
RustyRef said:
There's nothing under the tape. Sergio Ramos has done it for years, but it seems to be more prevalent in the Women's game. Not dissimilar to players wearing tape on their wrists, when you see them take it off at the end of the game or when they have been subbed there is nothing under it.

Didn't see the nose stud, are you sure it was during the game and not during the warm up? If not then the officials have obvious missed it.
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Not sure we can just assume 'There's nothing under the tape' in every case though?

Nice to see what the PL and Championship fail with every week - teams, both GKs and the 3 officials all in different colours. Not even any of this 'Its very dark blue, not black' malarkey either!. Just proves it is possible!

France v USA - Ref did OK, no VAR intervention - whether by design or luck I don't know.

Did let 2 blatent acts of simulation go without cautioning - not good.
 
PinnerPaul said:
Not sure we can just assume 'There's nothing under the tape' in every case though?
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Certainly whenever I've seen it there has been nothing underneath. I asked a player in a WPL game about it and she said that her partner didn't like her not wearing the ring in public so wearing the tape was symbolic rather than for any practical reason.
 
Not sure how it works but when I was on a WSL game both managers were male and both were in the changing room. Surely, he just gets the all clear once they are decent? As you would expect the other way...
 
JamesL said:
Not sure how it works but when I was on a WSL game both managers were male and both were in the changing room. Surely, he just gets the all clear once they are decent? As you would expect the other way...
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Speaking as someone who has managed a women's team, it really isn't that complicated. Before the game you aren't in there until they are all fully changed, you only really go in after the warm up to give the final instructions. You will obviously be in the changing room once you arrived at the ground, but once they are ready to get changed you leave. After the game you go straight in to deliver whatever message you want to give, then you see them after they have got changed.
 
PinnerPaul said:
Not sure we can just assume 'There's nothing under the tape' in every case though?
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No, but that's why the referee does a pre-match inspection. Let me turn it around - what basis do we have to assume there is something under the tape? As @RustyRef says, it's a widespread and well-known practice to wear a piece of tape to signify the ring that has been removed.Many, many players do it and most referees are aware of this, certainly at these levels.
 
JamesL said:
Not sure how it works but when I was on a WSL game both managers were male and both were in the changing room. Surely, he just gets the all clear once they are decent? As you would expect the other way...
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Not too different to mixed refereeing teams. A lot of common sense and respect for need for privacy privacy .
I was with a female referee last week. The third in our team was already on the field for the previous game to ours. Changing time I offered to go out and asked her to let me know when done. She said no it's all good, grabbed her gear and went to the toilet inside the change rooms and got changed. I did the same.
Sometimes I work with junior Femail referees when you must follow certain protocols just to be safe from a child protection point of view.
 
Seen more than one nose stus, plenty of hair clips and the odd necklace at this women’s World Cup.
 
RustyRef said:
Speaking as someone who has managed a women's team, it really isn't that complicated. Before the game you aren't in there until they are all fully changed, you only really go in after the warm up to give the final instructions. You will obviously be in the changing room once you arrived at the ground, but once they are ready to get changed you leave. After the game you go straight in to deliver whatever message you want to give, then you see them after they have got changed.
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i was referee coordinator as a favour form local ladies team years ago and the male coaching staff were in the dressing rooms.none of the players objected
 
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