So what if the referee signals for the kick to be taken then the keeper turns around because technically he is infringing the LOTG by not being in the right position so it still seems to me to be a goal?
I know what you're saying and it all depends on whether the referee has signalled for the kick or not.
If the keepe is in the right position, the referee signals for the kick to be taken and then the keeper turns around, then it is a goal.
If he turns around before the ref signals for the kick then the kick can't be taken and so you would have to wait for the keeper to turn around to signal. If he doesn't, caution him for delaying the restart.
The explanation we were given was that as per page 132 the keeper must be between the goals, under the bar and facing play and this is a KEY procedure that must take place for the kick to legally be taken despite the whistle being blown. I understand the point however, I trust the FIFA guys (no offence @Brian Hamilton). If I hear otherwise from another FIFA guy then I will tell you
I'm another in the goal camp I think. This one is a prime example of the need to piece together the components of both sections of the LOTG as it is currently written (hence the forthcoming rewrite).
So, Law 14 (p45) give the procedure and for me the crucial element on timing is that the first bullet point says:
After the players have taken positions in accordance with this Law, the referee signals for the penalty kick to be taken
Therefore, the referee must only confirm that the correct positions are adhered to at the point at which the signal is given for the kick to be taken. After the point of the signal, if the GK turns before the kick is taken then it counts as a defensive infringement and as the ball enters the goal the goal should be awarded (as per p46 & p133).
Only if the GK turns before the signal does it make the kick invalid and thus require a retake.
I presume it was the Stirling training day, Micky? If so I couldn't get my head round a few of the answers and I was there so I feel for the others who have no on the spot explanation to go by. I felt a bit better about it once he told us the majority of the FIFA refs operating in the UK and Europe got the questions wrong at their training camp.