I’m sure this has been discussed a million times in some form on here but I’ll restart the discussion.
Was watching an U13 game a few weeks back (why is there always some big incident when I’m watching a junior football game) when this happened. Home player is fouled by away player, and ref blows it. Away player offers his hand to pull him up when the offending phrase is said.
I never heard home player say it, but away player complains to the ref that the opponent had told him to “**** off” when he offered his hand. The ref says he heard it, walks towards the home player, and shockingly pulls out the red.
I talked to the ref after the match, and we got to the red card (the first I’ve seen at any age below U16 tbf) and I tell him I disagree with his decision, to which he seemed shocked. He said he’d always send off for swearing in a kids game as he considers it abusive. When I questioned this, he pointed out it was insulting language as well, clearly used as an insult, and also obviously offending as the player complained. The ref said he was gonna send off regardless but here he felt it was a nailed on red as everything in OFFINABUS was used.
Thoughts on this? I can see where the ref is coming from but I do respectfully disagree. I’ve never had to deal with swearing against a player myself before tbf. If I hear swearing I’ll normally issue a warning in a kids game, reminding them to watch their language (unless of course it’s directed an an opponent, I’m just talking about a kid having a dirty mouth here). If a player complains to me in a kids game that someone’s told them to “**** off” , which has happened a few times although I’ve never heard it, then I warn the accused player that if he did say it and I heard him then it’d be a yellow card.
If I heard a player tell another one to “f off” directly in a kids game then I’d caution. But a red feels a push for me. What is it for you guys?
Do you use a warning, caution or red here. If you red, what’s the code (surely OFFINABUS.) if you yellow, what’s the caution code?
Are you giving the same decision here as you would in an OA game or does the age of the kids affect it? Feel there’s an interesting debate to be had here
Was watching an U13 game a few weeks back (why is there always some big incident when I’m watching a junior football game) when this happened. Home player is fouled by away player, and ref blows it. Away player offers his hand to pull him up when the offending phrase is said.
I never heard home player say it, but away player complains to the ref that the opponent had told him to “**** off” when he offered his hand. The ref says he heard it, walks towards the home player, and shockingly pulls out the red.
I talked to the ref after the match, and we got to the red card (the first I’ve seen at any age below U16 tbf) and I tell him I disagree with his decision, to which he seemed shocked. He said he’d always send off for swearing in a kids game as he considers it abusive. When I questioned this, he pointed out it was insulting language as well, clearly used as an insult, and also obviously offending as the player complained. The ref said he was gonna send off regardless but here he felt it was a nailed on red as everything in OFFINABUS was used.
Thoughts on this? I can see where the ref is coming from but I do respectfully disagree. I’ve never had to deal with swearing against a player myself before tbf. If I hear swearing I’ll normally issue a warning in a kids game, reminding them to watch their language (unless of course it’s directed an an opponent, I’m just talking about a kid having a dirty mouth here). If a player complains to me in a kids game that someone’s told them to “**** off” , which has happened a few times although I’ve never heard it, then I warn the accused player that if he did say it and I heard him then it’d be a yellow card.
If I heard a player tell another one to “f off” directly in a kids game then I’d caution. But a red feels a push for me. What is it for you guys?
Do you use a warning, caution or red here. If you red, what’s the code (surely OFFINABUS.) if you yellow, what’s the caution code?
Are you giving the same decision here as you would in an OA game or does the age of the kids affect it? Feel there’s an interesting debate to be had here
