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Herts Ref

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Looking to get some advice from an incident that happened in my U18 game yesterday.
Keeper gathers the ball from a corner and runs to edge of the box to take a quick drop kick, I watch him release it and then turn to watch the drop zone whilst sprinting towards the halfway line. After about 2 seconds I hear the players kicking off in the box behind me so turn to look and see a defender with his arm around an attackers throat and forcefully throw him to the ground. It all calms a few seconds later and I start the red card procedure for the defender.
The CAR comes onto the pitch to tell me what he saw from the attacking team, and what started the melee, which I had assumed would have been the attacking team doing something to the keeper. My thought process is that if I haven't seen what the attacking player has done, I can't take any disciplinary action. I also had no idea which attacking player it was. The CAR was very clear with who it was, and what he did, but was I correct in not taking any disciplinary action as I hadn't actually seen anything?

I did speak to the attacking captain to get him to calm his players down, but is there anything else I can do?
 
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Did you get the CAR's name ? - You could put in a extordinary report and put down what the CAR said and leave it to the FA's outscorced disipline department to investigate.
 
Did you get the CAR's name ? - You could put in a extordinary report and put down what the CAR said and leave it to the FA's outscorced disipline department to investigate.
Not everyone's discipline department is outsourced...
 
Looking to get some advice from an incident that happened in my U18 game yesterday.
Keeper gathers the ball from a corner and runs to edge of the box to take a quick drop kick, I watch him release it and then turn to watch the drop zone whilst sprinting towards the halfway line. After about 2 seconds I hear the players kicking off in the box behind me so turn to look and see a defender with his arm around an attackers throat and forcefully throw him to the ground. It all calms a few seconds later and I start the red card procedure for the defender.
The CAR comes onto the pitch to tell me what he saw from the attacking team, and what started the melee, which I had assumed would have been the attacking team doing something to the keeper. My thought process is that if I haven't seen what the attacking player has done, I can't take any disciplinary action. I also had no idea which attacking player it was. The CAR was very clear with who it was, and what he did, but was I correct in not taking any disciplinary action as I hadn't actually seen anything?

I did speak to the attacking captain to get him to calm his players down, but is there anything else I can do?
Correct. In game unless you see it, or on the advice of a neutral assistant no sanction can be given. You can report what you were told by the CAR as extraordinary report.
 
Correct. In game unless you see it, or on the advice of a neutral assistant no sanction can be given. You can report what you were told by the CAR as extraordinary report.
Thanks for confirming what I thought. I explained to the defending captain and coach what I saw, and that I could only discipline what I actually saw, which they accepted. The parents on the other hand...
 
It's similar to where you hear a commotion behind you, you turn to see one player with blood gushing from his nose and an opponent looking guilty. Realistically you know what has happened, but you haven't seen it so can't take any action.
 
It's similar to where you hear a commotion behind you, you turn to see one player with blood gushing from his nose and an opponent looking guilty. Realistically you know what has happened, but you haven't seen it so can't take any action.
..and that's why they do it behind our backs
 
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