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But is it not the defender’s ball? Even as a Newcastle fan - defenders can’t be expected to not go for a ball in case someone tries to head it.

What if rather than ‘ninny’ it was something racist - are you willing to send one player off and not the other?

I don't disagree. If that was the sole issue then I'd be onboard but the duty of care is a red herring for me. Also, if it had come to nothing we wouldn't be talking about it. How often are 'slow' free kicks taken from the wrong place around the half-way line.

On the other hand (even as a Newcastle fan), safe playing says not to foul the player and stand back up afterwards.

I've got no problem with either. Unlike the goalkeeper coming off his line, the taker has chosen to take his very average penalty with he GK doing that. And as for the second (yes, he should have stopped play) but 1) he wasn't kicked in the head as the foot made no contact with the head and 2)...

The LOTG don’t say that. It has to be deliberately kicked to the GK - not just deliberately kicked and the GK gets it,

The difference being, the below isn't part of the definition of dangerous play: preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision

‘Explain the handball law.’

I was wondering how long it would take for ‘players cheat because the referees make them’ to come up 💤😴

the end result is irrelevant - if both players encroach it’s a retake.

Why are we discussing this? It’s an absolutely stonewall penalty.

I’ve seen it four times from four angles in slow-mo and can’t decide - no problem at all with the referee not blowing for that! Frankly I’m not even convinced it’s a yellow card (if it was out of the PA) - the ball as you say is more likely to go out than to the attacker’s feet so SPA is doubtful.

Nothing irritates me more than a referee putting his arm(s) up, shouting ‘advantage’ because of how proud of himself he is and then having to blow the whistle because no one has had a chance to collect the loose ball. It just looks like an inability to read the game to me.

It’s not late. It’s very sensible to me that a referee waits to see if there’s an advantage before signaling.

Unlike Paul Tierney who had the SW derby today - not a demotion but a top Championship game.

Which I thought was neither outside the area nor DOGSO.

When it all goes wrong in the remaining 60 minutes, you know who to blame BUT... Graham Scott has had a great first 30. Great PK call, great caution for simulation in the box (both fabulous positions too) and willing to let the game flow and looking for advantage constantly.

I don’t mind that to be honest. They were in a decent position and it probably took a second to remember who he’d already booked!

Two very solid red card decisions last night.

What would you accept as ‘benefitting?’ A goal?