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santa sangria said:
“Makkelie was ordered to the monitor by video assistant referee Carlos del Cerro Grande to review the play. Makkelie eventually overturned the yellow on Ream, instead booking Almirón for simulation, justifying the “mistaken identity” definition.”

Hmm… how is Collina gonna take that?
Sounds like a law error to me. Haven’t seen the clip yet.
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They do what they like Santa. Which equates to using VAR as much as humanly possible
I'm conflicted. What's worse, blatant cheating or the scourge of VAR. I might take a few weeks off work to ponder that one
 
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Big Cat said:
They do what they like Santa. Which equates to using VAR as much as humanly possible
I'm conflicted. What's worse, blatant cheating or the scourge of VAR. I might take a few weeks off work to ponder that one
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I think it has to be right as far as a tournament is concerned. Specifically, whereas in the PL/EFL I think it may be 5 yellows to a player for cumulation to warrant a further suspension, in the initial round of WC, there is I think only 2 yellow cards, so the USA Captain could have been given a suspension following the next game if he received a yellow, which would certainly be unfair if his first caution stood against Paraguay.
 
RefereeX said:
It’s not mistaken identity. It’s an incorrect decision. Really not sure that’s VAR reviewable, although the public will support it
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I’d go further. Given that the law talks about trips or attempts to trip, I’d see the original decision as correct, regardless of the extremely minimal contact. IMO, absolutely no way VAR should have intervened there.
 
Russell Jones said:
I’d go further. Given that the law talks about trips or attempts to trip, I’d see the original decision as correct, regardless of the extremely minimal contact. IMO, absolutely no way VAR should have intervened there.
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In one sense I agree with you in that there was an attempt to trip by the USA Captain, either intentionally or unintentionally. However, given that there was a second or two delay before the theatrical dive by the Paraguay player to win a free kick/deceive the Referee, I would argue that the offence by the simulator was more serious than any offence by the USA Captain!
 
DavidObs said:
In one sense I agree with you in that there was an attempt to trip by the USA Captain, either intentionally or unintentionally. However, given that there was a second or two delay before the theatrical dive by the Paraguay player to win a free kick/deceive the Referee, I would argue that the offence by the simulator was more serious than any offence by the USA Captain!
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But we only punish the ‘more serious offence’ if they are simultaneous. In this case, the obvious attempt to trip clearly happened first.

If Almiron had stayed on his feet and a goal had swiftly resulted, I’d have been totally unsurprised to see the referee holding an advantage signal to claim the credit for allowing play to continue!!
 
Russell Jones said:
But we only punish the ‘more serious offence’ if they are simultaneous. In this case, the obvious attempt to trip clearly happened first.

If Almiron had stayed on his feet and a goal had swiftly resulted, I’d have been totally unsurprised to see the referee holding an advantage signal to claim the credit for allowing play to continue!!
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Though it was simultaneous with the dive being from the same incident, although I do agree with you that the attempt to trip came first & i acknowledge that I may be stretching a point of law.

I definitely agree with you about your 2nd point.
 
Technically 'attempt' to trip signifies intent. If he attempted to play the ball but a concequense was negligible contact I would not classify that as attempt to trip.

My understanding of the spirit of the law to punish attempting to trip, kick, strike when no contact is made is to punish the intent and not the consequence.
 
DavidObs said:
I think it has to be right as far as a tournament is concerned. Specifically, whereas in the PL/EFL I think it may be 5 yellows to a player for cumulation to warrant a further suspension, in the initial round of WC, there is I think only 2 yellow cards, so the USA Captain could have been given a suspension following the next game if he received a yellow, which would certainly be unfair if his first caution stood against Paraguay.
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My most annoying recurring blunder is 'mistaken identity'. Whilst patting myself on the back for yet another remarkably brave and incredibly good decision, I reach for the pocket to admonish the culprit with one of my penal cards and flash it in the direction of someone else wearing the same colour shirt. This was not that. Oh anyway, FIFA won't rest until the on-field ref is just a representative of the folk sat in a booth hundreds of miles away, after which they'll shoe horn in some AI to in some sort of football dystopian world we've already entered
 
Locking this one so that you can start a dedicated thread for each game
 
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