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Ori

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both penalty calls correct although had he given second one, I don’t feel var would have reversed it as an obvious error.

However, my main question is who blows for half time before the corner is taken? If you give the corner, you let it play, otherwise blow before people setup for the corner.
 
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I actually thought the referee was excellent last night.
Correct not to 2nd caution for the PSG penalty, 2 correct non penalties (albeit I am a little surprised Saka’s handball wasn’t given serious consideration with UEFA handball interpretation).
And he blew for half time because Arsenal were taking the mickey on time to take the corner. They got what they deserved.
 
Not sure how I feel, was hilarious and saka did walk over slowly despite being encouraged to hurry up - that said not great practice

I also don't think the arsenal pen is anything, more of a foul the other way and a dive
 
both penalty calls correct although had he given second one, I don’t feel var would have reversed it as an obvious error.

However, my main question is who blows for half time before the corner is taken? If you give the corner, you let it play, otherwise blow before people setup for the corner.
We all know time is up when up.
Imagine they scored from it beyond time.

Anyway, he probably wanted to give them the time but they took so long going over to take it that it probably went well beyond the time.
 
Coming together, both at it, Madueke going to ground too easily, was there sufficient contact from the defender - too much doubt for a penalty for me!

Mendes knees carelessly his opponent. And is all over him. As a ref its careless. As a coach I would have no problem this being given as a foul v my team, as a player (ex semi pro) I would be expecting a foul to be given for similar.
 
Mendes knees carelessly his opponent. And is all over him. As a ref its careless. As a coach I would have no problem this being given as a foul v my team, as a player (ex semi pro) I would be expecting a foul to be given for similar.
Have you seen the angle where Madueke puts his arm round the defender's arm/shoulder and appears to hold him? Imo it's very clearly not a penalty, and if anything is more of a foul the other way
 
Have you seen the angle where Madueke puts his arm round the defender's arm/shoulder and appears to hold him? Imo it's very clearly not a penalty, and if anything is more of a foul the other way

Yes, its beyond challenging to drive into the box with the ball, turn and hold a player at the same time who is behind you. Try it.
 
Yes, its beyond challenging to drive into the box with the ball, turn and hold a player at the same time who is behind you. Try it.
I don't doubt it is difficult, but there was no "careless knee" involved in the challenge imo, but there was definitely mutual holding. Mutual holding isn't a punishable offence, and Madueke doesn't have to turn to hold Mendes. He just sticks his arm through and pulls.
 
I don't doubt it is difficult, but there was no "careless knee" involved in the challenge imo, but there was definitely mutual holding. Mutual holding isn't a punishable offence, and Madueke doesn't have to turn to hold Mendes. He just sticks his arm through and pulls.
Yes Mendes knee/thigh carelessly makes contact with Madueke. Mutual holding ... You were stating that Madueke was holding onto his opponent not they were both holding.
 
There is no holding by the defender, only the attacker. I could have understood if the officials had deemed it a penalty on-field, but it only takes one view of a replay to see that the attacker initiates the contact by holding the defender's arm, effectively pulling him down on top of him.
 
Yes Mendes knee/thigh carelessly makes contact with Madueke. Mutual holding ... You were stating that Madueke was holding onto his opponent not they were both holding.
I was being conservative in my original comments, but now that I have found what I was looking for, the evidence is clear & not in Arsenal’s favour i am afraid. The Referee was the opposite to careless - he was correct not to award a penalty.
 

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Had the ref called a penalty it wouldn’t have been overturned. Thats my opinion of it.
Perhaps & that’s one way of looking at it, though the best way to look at it, since it actually happened, is that the Referee didn’t award a penalty and it wasn’t overturned. Some may say there is no right or wrong whichever way it went, but the outcome was more right than wrong in more ways than one & therefore the correct decision.
 
Perhaps & that’s one way of looking at it, though the best way to look at it, since it actually happened, is that the Referee didn’t award a penalty and it wasn’t overturned. Some may say there is no right or wrong whichever way it went, but the outcome was more right than wrong in more ways than one & therefore the correct decision.
That's so deep 🤔🤣
 
Perhaps & that’s one way of looking at it, though the best way to look at it, since it actually happened, is that the Referee didn’t award a penalty and it wasn’t overturned. Some may say there is no right or wrong whichever way it went, but the outcome was more right than wrong in more ways than one & therefore the correct decision.
I don’t disagree. Is that a benefit or a hindrance of VAR? I feel referees at that level don’t make the big calls anymore and rely on VAR to make the call.

The result is only clear cut decisions being made. That maybe a good thing or it maybe a bad thing. Who knows? ;)
 
Definitely not a penalty in my opinion, even the Arsenal fans I know don't think it was and they are usually very quick to moan. What isn't open to any kind of debate is that it definitely wasn't a clear and obvious error to not give a penalty, and I have a feeling that had it been given VAR would have got involved as there was just no foul committed.
 
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