They could and should would stamp this right out while show resilience
Cardiff Ref Strike
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But that doesn't put a stop to it because you simply do it providing the required 72 hours notice.
If you are ill, then there's no chance you can be expected to help find a replacement.
Runner Ref
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How exactly would they punish the referees?
Runner Ref
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Exactly. Punish the striking referees by giving them more weeks to strike.
Even when I was Level 3, and therefore operating in professional and semi-professional football, I sometimes had to pull out with less than 72 hours due to work, that was never held against me.
Assuming you are in England there is absolutely nothing in any of the regulations that can require a referee to find, or even assist in finding, a replacement referee if they withdraw less than 72 hours before the game.
It will be interesting to see what the outcome of the withdrawal of services has. Quite conceivable that the vast majority of games will go ahead and pass without incident as players notch it down a little for the weekend, the following week the refs get the mickey taken out of them , “ We didn’t need you last week” “ Last weeks ref was better” all said tongue in cheek of course and then the third weekend it’s all forgotten and back to normal
I hope in some small way it does make players,coaches etc think about the extremes of their behaviour and if it does alter the mindset of one or two then it can be measured as a success but as to the HE’S described in an earlier post they will never change.
I hope in some small way it does make players,coaches etc think about the extremes of their behaviour and if it does alter the mindset of one or two then it can be measured as a success but as to the HE’S described in an earlier post they will never change.
I'm going to ignore the debate on scabbing, there's no point any of use speculating on the justification because AFAIK none of us are referees in Cardiff dealing with this behaviour.
Personally, if issues of behaviour aren't dealt with and problem players are repeat offending with no consequence then in my area I would refuse to officiate the leagues affected. Even if it's "just a few people" you don't want to take a game unsure if you're going to face a bad apple because they keep being put back in the barrel
Personally, if issues of behaviour aren't dealt with and problem players are repeat offending with no consequence then in my area I would refuse to officiate the leagues affected. Even if it's "just a few people" you don't want to take a game unsure if you're going to face a bad apple because they keep being put back in the barrel
This is a really good point. I no longer officiate in a certain league because I found it so unenjoyable I started to question why I was refereeing at all. That's not an uncommon experience, I'm sure.
If I acted like that in my professional life I would be homeless I have to do business with them so reffing far less of them is nothing personal opinion anyone striking is to the detriment of themselves and the game if I’ve made even one person see that I’ve done my bit some of the support for it on here hurts me though as it shows referees who’s heart isn’t with the sport.
Not buying this at all. I’ve had plenty of jobs and have never been expected to face abuse from clients, colleagues or customers without them facing consequences. And if consequences aren’t provided then employees have chosen to strike. It’s very normal and quite frankly, as we’ve seen, effective.
I think it shows your heart isn’t in the sport more if you’re willing to tolerate its descent into thuggery.
Heart has to be in the sport if the strike is to improve conditions, meaning we can continue to referee - surely?
I hope it makes a difference at a local level, but no lasting change will happen across the board unless a strike happens on a national scale - including senior officials. I’m not sure there is appetite for that at this stage until, unfortunately, a serious incident happens involving a referee.
I’m not even sure who would organise such a national action, other than perhaps the good people of this forum!
I’m not even sure who would organise such a national action, other than perhaps the good people of this forum!
It would come through the RA, or more likely I would say Ref Support UK. Can't ever see the top level referees striking though.
Hate to say this, but eventually a referee will be killed or assaulted to the extent that he or she suffers life changing injuries. That would then drive urgent change, but it shouldn't need a trigger point like that, they need to very strictly enforce extremely long bans for anyone that assaults a referee.
Runner Ref
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We all have disagreements on here and we’re all entitled to an opinion. But you’re just pedalling non-sensical stories now. No one who goes to work should have to put up with abuse. No one who does a hobby should have to put up with abuse. As referees we take aggro to a certain extend, but obviously the referees in Cardiff have decided enough is enough.
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Abuse is part and parcel of my job and in all honesty to a extent in life I have decided to speak up against a perceived injustice which I feel needs addressing if you want to pedal the woe is me attitude of Cardiff refs being right I am entitled to stick up for those of us who feel there actions are deplorable it’s not non sensical it’s just honesty and realism
Runner Ref
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If you’re happy being abused in your job, that’s on you. It doesn’t mean anyone else needs to put up with such situations. Good on anyone for having the bottle to stand up to bullies and abusers.
And again, refereeing isn’t a job for these people, it’s a hobby.
It’s a unfortunate part of both refereeing and my job but I have cards and a voice as a referee and if needed have a voice a certain demeanour at work standing up to people takes bottle striking
( Running from the problem) does not so you must be just trolling now.
Runner Ref
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The people striking have voices and cards, and I’m sure they’ve used them. Unfortunately things get to a stage where they are no longer of use.
Ps- full stops exist
