Rather depressing article on the BBC website....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/46208857?__twitter_impression=true
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/46208857?__twitter_impression=true
Depressing indeed
My 9 year old loves coming to games with me, but i can't take him to OA games for obvious reasons. I don't like taking him to watch any football, come to think of it
I fear giving exposure to the horrific treatment that referee's can endure only adds fuel to the fire.
Low life amoebas thrive off copy catting.
And worse, someone always wants to go one better/worse.
Its certainly more society related than football specific. Any kids/teens answer to anything is "who the f are you to tell me what to do", be that to parent, shop keeper, teacher, police, referee, social worker, even the postie. Its a lack of respect in generation, there is so much rights, equality, discrimination, and so on that the younger generation feel untouchable, as to lament them means picking on them, and, that's just not on
It stems from the lack of social interaction we have these days, everything is done/communicated online, it's entirely possible to go days without contact from another human being and still survive, you don't even need to go to the shop, your shopping comes to your door, meaning you missing out on please, thanks, counting your change, the challenge of picking the ripest fruit, thinking about bb dates, packing your bag so you can carry it home safely, learning patience whilst in queue, you miss out on general public, saying "sorry" or being told "sorry " if you accidently mow the trolley into someone or have it done to you,,
well that's my theory anyway
Am from an age where there was no internet or mobile phones, and indeed we did play jackets for goals until either there was no light left, or mum had called the last one standing in to bed.
The ball would go in xx garden and we knew it would be fine to go get it, it went in xxx garden and we knew what her reaction would be, we learned to pick each other up when we were hurt, we learned to laugh at each others shameful overhead kick efforts, we learned when the local hardman was on his way to try to either play, or ruin the game, we developed all kinds of social skills, blissfully unaware of them at the time
today, kid turn up in sponsored trackies to the 4g expecting the janny to have the gates open and the dressing room warm and the nets up and the flags out. When I played, it was us kids who put the nets up and swept the room, we would never think about trashing the pavilion or damaging the open public park, it was ours and we took pride in it.
todays referee at kids football is the man who is out to tell kids what to do but, the kids have their own game, of, push him as far as we can cos really we know there is hee haw he can do about it.
The reaction to the rape one is shocking. No action whatsoever?
I agree but rugby (both codes) doesn't have these issues because it doesn't allow such behaviour towards the referee. Boxing is the same. I agree with all the social points you make but football has allowed this culture to grow and referees from the top level facilitate it. How can we change this culture currently when we're accepting it and trying to manage it? I'd love the laws to be applied for dissent etc strictly from the top down. Any swearing or aggression at all to a ref, straightvyellow minimum. Forget tolerance levels, mandatory sanctions. We currently accept the abuse and therefore inadvertently encourage it
I agree but rugby (both codes) doesn't have these issues because it doesn't allow such behaviour towards the referee. Boxing is the same. I agree with all the social points you make but football has allowed this culture to grow and referees from the top level facilitate it. How can we change this culture currently when we're accepting it and trying to manage it? I'd love the laws to be applied for dissent etc strictly from the top down. Any swearing or aggression at all to a ref, straightvyellow minimum. Forget tolerance levels, mandatory sanctions. We currently accept the abuse and therefore inadvertently encourage it
I had 3 attempted assaults, one was a turned down penalty on the final whistle, always a terse event, both ways.
2nd was partly my own fault having said something under my breath, with massive provocation, and he heard what I said! oops!
3rd was an umpa lumpa player who I’d sent off
If we act on our own individually to try to stamp out dissent, we get singled out. We know our RDOs, refsecs, leagues aren’t comfortable with it. We know that if we apply the laws on dissent - rather than game management - we will harm our promotion prospects.