Liverpool - Man C

[Tealeaf]

On field only real taking point so far is the Gravenberch red card.

I can understand pundit position, as when taken in isolation the challenges aren’t necessarily a caution.

But that ignores the broader context, the second caution especially. That’s a nailed on breaking up a promising attack caution. Challenging from behind with no prospect of playing the ball. And already walking the tightrope, that’s taking an unnecessary risk.

Players eh?

 

[BCMilan]

On field only real taking point so far is the Gravenberch red card.

I can understand pundit position, as when taken in isolation the challenges aren’t necessarily a caution.

But that ignores the broader context, the second caution especially. That’s a nailed on breaking up a promising attack caution. Challenging from behind with no prospect of playing the ball. And already walking the tightrope, that’s taking an unnecessary risk.

Players eh?

Silly punditry saying it's soft IMO. As you say, It was a classic promising attack caution

 

[Paul_10]

I thought it was the correct decision aswell, Doku was breaking forward and it was a cynical trip.

No doubt we will hear comments the red card ruined the game but it was not the best game before that and Liverpool have played very poorly with 10 men unlike their opponents when they were down to 10 men against United.

 

[RustyRef]

I've been trying to explain to my Liverpool supporting mates, once Kavanagh decides to give the free kick there could only be one outcome. If you are on a caution and you make that challenge you have to win the ball, if you don't you are walking.

 

[Tim Punter]

The first yellow on Anderson was very harsh, and Doku like Anderson made a bit of meal of it. Not sure why Anderson wasn't cautioned for holding onto the ball in the 1st half?

 

[socal lurker]

It always amazes me when people thing a clear caution shouldn't be given because it would be the second. The whole concept of the "caution" being a warning to improve behavior (hence the name!), seems to be totally lost.

 

[deusex]

The first yellow on Anderson was very harsh, and Doku like Anderson made a bit of meal of it. Not sure why Anderson wasn't cautioned for holding onto the ball in the 1st half?

Was a real stinker of a decision that.
No idea what in his mind made this a caution? Rare to see such an objectively wrong FT caution.
Did he really fall for the complete flop from Anderson (was more of a caution that the tackle).

 

[Tim Punter]

Was a real stinker of a decision that.
No idea what in his mind made this a caution? Rare to see such an objectively wrong caution FT caution.
Did he really fall for the complete flop from Anderson (was more of a caution that the tackle).

Agree, Anderson late stumble surely would indicate it was a careless tackle at best. Also ignored Enzo standing right next to Doku, waving a card, which he booked Araujo for in the first half. Would have thought one of the officials could have seen that.

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[RefereeX]

Was a real stinker of a decision that.
No idea what in his mind made this a caution? Rare to see such an objectively wrong FT caution.
Did he really fall for the complete flop from Anderson (was more of a caution that the tackle).

Not sure you can say the caution is objectively wrong when Gravenberch's studs came down on top of Anderson's foot. In a lot of competitions thats a mandatory caution.

 

[BCMilan]

Did he catch his at all, though. Or was Anderson just play acting ?

 

[RefereeX]

Did he catch his at all, though. Or was Anderson just play acting ?

100% he caught him on top of the foot - not to say Anderson didn't exaggerate it, but it was definitely enough for a caution in places where that guidance has been given.

 

[BCMilan]

you sure Gravenberch doesn't pull out of the tackle ?

 

[deusex]

Not sure you can say the caution is objectively wrong when Gravenberch's studs came down on top of Anderson's foot. In a lot of competitions thats a mandatory caution.

You mean he steps on his foot with minimal force?

 

[RefereeX]

You mean he steps on his foot with minimal force?

Spot the Liverpool fan .

Yes, he steps on his foot. No it's not deliberate. The force is as expected for that sort of situation, and as I said above, a mandatory caution in many places / situations, even if not written in law.

I don't mind the opinion that it's a harsh caution or even that you don't think it should be a caution, but to say it's objectively wrong is objectively wrong in itself.