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Whistle blast before 5 second count down.

HibbyGaz

HibbyGaz

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Not sure how anyone else is getting on with it (pre count whistle) but after three friendlies and one academy game, I have stopped using the whistle and just started the loud verbal count down.

When whistling, players were getting confused with it whereas just starting the count down they have been fine.

I think in noisy EFL/Premier League grounds etc it may be beneficial??

How is everyone else finding it?
 
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The difficulty with that approach is that on the goal kick and throw-in counts, it’s a specified requirement of the procedure.

So, whilst I appreciate it may feel sensible it puts you in a challenging place from a technical point of law.
 
The procedure is there for all referees.

The majority of referees you can barely hear on a football pitch. Doubly so for the ones who say "I like to talk".
So the whistle to draw attention to you is a necessary evil overall.
If some refs are doing it and others not there's going to be confusion.

The goalkeeper's especially are now just waiting for you to start the count.
 
HibbyGaz said:
Not sure how anyone else is getting on with it (pre count whistle) but after three friendlies and one academy game, I have stopped using the whistle and just started the loud verbal count down.

When whistling, players were getting confused with it whereas just starting the count down they have been fine.

I think in noisy EFL/Premier League grounds etc it may be beneficial??

How is everyone else finding it?
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I have seen 4 games now and haven’t seen any confusion from players. Yes, it can be a bit of the pain having to use the whistle when it was usually the case to use sparingly, but it has produced the desired outcome of compliance. Having said that if a game has neutral Assistants, there are opportunities for the active AR to be pro-active so that the Referee may not have to intervene.
 
I won't do this until next season but I wonder if doing a short double peep instead of a single blast would take any possible confusion out of it.
 
I have seen one where the whistle was blown as the player was in the process of throwing the ball. This caused the players to stop. But at that point, the thrower is no longer wasting time so the whistle and count arent needed anyway.
If youre going to do this, you should be blowing at a point at which the thrower isnt on the verge of throwing it, which means it shouldn't cause a problem.
 
Although I have had players telling me a previous referee told them the count starts when you pick the ball up. Which doesnt help the players understand, if the referee cant pass it on correctly!
 
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I won't do this until next season but I wonder if doing a short double peep instead of a single blast would take any possible confusion out of it.
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I think in my games at least this might bring even more confusion. I have always been double to stop play/restart and single to get the game going again after a stoppage.

Had a few games with the new law now and haven't had any issues with confusion from the players
 
DavidObs said:
I have seen 4 games now and haven’t seen any confusion from players. Yes, it can be a bit of the pain having to use the whistle when it was usually the case to use sparingly, but it has produced the desired outcome of compliance. Having said that if a game has neutral Assistants, there are opportunities for the active AR to be pro-active so that the Referee may not have to intervene.
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🤔 I think if deployed in the way intended the were only counting at the point we would have been getting close to a caution, or reprimand, so we are still vocally encouraging the restart and at a time we would have still blown the whistle to indicate the restart needs to be taken so, yes I think whistle usage will go up a little but in reality we hopefully won't have to deploy it too frequently.
 
MuffledWarbler said:
I have seen one where the whistle was blown as the player was in the process of throwing the ball. This caused the players to stop. But at that point, the thrower is no longer wasting time so the whistle and count arent needed anyway.
If youre going to do this, you should be blowing at a point at which the thrower isnt on the verge of throwing it, which means it shouldn't cause a problem.
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Agree with a "but." Some players stall by repeatedly looking like they are going to throw it. At some point the R has to step in (and if I were a player stalling while doing that dance, I'd throw it as the whistle blew to take more time. . . .).
 
I had a situation Saturday that I’d like some advice / clarification on please.

Approaching the last 10 mins of the game, away side winning 2-1 and quite obviously trying to slow the game down, subsequently quite sharp on throw ins using the protocol and it’s working really well.

I then have a situation where the ball is heading out of play with the ball bouncing towards the benches, the away side manager attempts to catch the ball and pass it to his own left back to to take the throw, but in that process they manage to send the ball over the advertising hoardings (deliberately in my opinion) but also being quite clever with it. I subsequently blow my whistle and start the count, as you can probably imagine the bench goes berserk and quite vocally suggest that I can’t start the count as someone needs to retrieve the ball for the thrower, now in my opinion, it’s a deliberate act to slow down the game so I’m quite within my right to start the count.

Just interested to know whether I’m correct in my application here?

Not that it matters but one of the subs subsequently jumped over the hoarding and collected the ball and I didn’t need to reverse the throw in, but it did all feel a little awkward and badly managed.
 
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