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VArg Egypt

No question the Egyptian player stood on the Argentinian players foot. That’s a foul and a goal cannot be awarded. Unfortunately the referee did not see it in realtime and play was not stopped until after the goal. Egypt did not complain too much about that yet rather the no call on the challenge on Salah late on for a penalty. That was never a penalty yet Salah made the most of it. McAllister pulling an Egyptian inside the penalty area preventing him from moving forward was a foul As it was *unconnected* with play it was VAR ignored. That’s a consequence of allowing the pulling shenanigans to go unpunished. That was a foul and a penalty yet nothing new there.
The distasteful part is Egypt claiming referee conspiracy to allow Argentina to win. Throw in the Egypt manager making the crossed arms racist signal it is just totally unacceptable. He should have been red carded rather than cautioned as he was basically signalling that the referee made biased racist decisions.
The bottom line is that Egypt led by 2 goals with 15 mins left and conceded three goals. At 2-2 they finally pushed out and got exposed. Had they continued to park the bus relying just on breakaways they might have got a result.
FWIW FIFA has lost control of the technical areas. It’s now a free for all. The behaviour of the technical area at the red card for an Egyptian coach was a joke.
 
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Goldfish said:
No question the Egyptian player stood on the Argentinian players foot. That’s a foul and a goal cannot be awarded. Unfortunately the referee did not see it in realtime and play was not stopped until after the goal. Egypt did not complain too much about that yet rather the no call on the challenge on Salah late on for a penalty. That was never a penalty yet Salah made the most of it. McAllister pulling an Egyptian inside the penalty area preventing him from moving forward was a foul As it was *unconnected* with play it was VAR ignored. That’s a consequence of allowing the pulling shenanigans to go unpunished. That was a foul and a penalty yet nothing new there.
The distasteful part is Egypt claiming referee conspiracy to allow Argentina to win. Throw in the Egypt manager making the crossed arms racist signal it is just totally unacceptable. He should have been red carded rather than cautioned as he was basically signalling that the referee made biased racist decisions.
The bottom line is that Egypt led by 2 goals with 15 mins left and conceded three goals. At 2-2 they finally pushed out and got exposed. Had they continued to park the bus relying just on breakaways they might have got a result.
FWIW FIFA has lost control of the technical areas. It’s now a free for all. The behaviour of the technical area at the red card for an Egyptian coach was a joke.
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And now an Argentinian Referee appointed to the French game. However, everything has just gone crazy these days about who Referees who and which country or even in the PL/EFL which County someone comes from. I get it, but I don’t like it - but just has to be done/one of those things.
 
DavidObs said:
And now an Argentinian Referee appointed to the French game. However, everything has just gone crazy these days about who Referees who and which country or even in the PL/EFL which County someone comes from. I get it, but I don’t like it - but just has to be done/one of those things.
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surely it's something that could be relatively easy to avoid (much like oliver reffing belgium v spain)

at this stage you cannot be reffing if your nation is still in the competition - simple
 
I spent the entire first-half last night not knowing which team was which. Reckon these FIFA badge lads could be equally impartial as I was.
 
Goldfish said:
No question the Egyptian player stood on the Argentinian players foot. That’s a foul and a goal cannot be awarded. Unfortunately the referee did not see it in realtime and play was not stopped until after the goal. Egypt did not complain too much about that yet rather the no call on the challenge on Salah late on for a penalty. That was never a penalty yet Salah made the most of it. McAllister pulling an Egyptian inside the penalty area preventing him from moving forward was a foul As it was *unconnected* with play it was VAR ignored. That’s a consequence of allowing the pulling shenanigans to go unpunished. That was a foul and a penalty yet nothing new there.
The distasteful part is Egypt claiming referee conspiracy to allow Argentina to win. Throw in the Egypt manager making the crossed arms racist signal it is just totally unacceptable. He should have been red carded rather than cautioned as he was basically signalling that the referee made biased racist decisions.
The bottom line is that Egypt led by 2 goals with 15 mins left and conceded three goals. At 2-2 they finally pushed out and got exposed. Had they continued to park the bus relying just on breakaways they might have got a result.
FWIW FIFA has lost control of the technical areas. It’s now a free for all. The behaviour of the technical area at the red card for an Egyptian coach was a joke.
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Why was the crossed arms signal unacceptable- do we know what/why the coach was signalling/alleging?
 
RustyRef said:
I look at it the other way, the bigger nations and clubs get more big decisions in their favour as they spend way more time on average in the opponents half and penalty area. If you spend 75% of the time in your opponents half you are clearly have more penalty appeals for you and less against you.

I laughed when Burnley complained last season that they had few penalty decisions go their way, that’s because they barely got out of their own half.
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Yes, I aggree

However, that's a different discussion. Naturally, the better sides will dominate territorially, sometimes considerably so. Therefore, they'll get more PKs and therefore KMDs in their favour

But this makes no difference to the point I was making. Every KMD is a decision for one side and against the other, no matter where it occurs on the FOP. Decisions can still slightly bias towards the marquee sides regardless of the point you correctly posted
 
I didn't know what the crossed arms signal meant. I must have missed that memo. I guess the coach is using the race card to indicate they didn't get decisions because of racism by the officials. Using the race card is worse than racism

The Balogun thing has exacerbated all this. Rightly so, integrity is in question
I sympathise with the decision of the VAR to intervene in a manner not consistent with the early part of the tournament. Nothing to do with race, but perhaps the World Champions got looked after in a manner consistent with what I'd expect. But the behaviour of the Egyptians has been disproportionate, typical of the culture of the game, and entirely distasteful. They ought to have focused on protecting their lead instead of melting as fast as Ferrero Roche in my smelly armpit. They could've conceded ten goals in this game and they seem to have conveniently forgotten that it was just one decision that was arguably unjust

But integrity is now in question
 
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RustyRef said:
I’m kind of OK with that intervention. Might have been a long way from goal but was sustained holding and dragged him to the floor. I’d rather they didn’t get involved but I certainly don’t think it was wrong, and they were definitely right not to get involved in the supposed foul for Egypt just before Argentina scored.
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Was that pull enough to be sustained holding?
 
Big Cat said:
I didn't know what the crossed arms signal meant. I must have missed that memo. I guess the coach is using the race card to indicate they didn't get decisions because of racism by the officials. Using the race card is worse than racism

The Balogun thing has exacerbated all this. Rightly so, integrity is in question
I sympathise with the decision of the VAR to intervene in a manner not consistent with the early part of the tournament. Nothing to do with race, but perhaps the World Champions got looked after in a manner consistent with what I'd expect. But the behaviour of the Egyptians has been disproportionate, typical of the culture of the game, and entirely distasteful. They ought to have focused on protecting their lead. They could've conceded ten goals in this game and they seem to have conveniently forgotten that it was just one decision that was arguably unjust

But integrity is now in question
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This is what I am confused. Has there been some reporting that the coach was accusing the referees of acting with racial bias or was he reporting a racial slur by an opponent or fan?
 
The worst thing about all of this is that the Egyptian FA president has called for Letexier to be excluded from the remainder of the tournament.

There was a very high likelihood that even if yesterday went perfectly smoothly (and by all accounts it wasn't Letexier's shortcomings that mean it didn't) it would still have been his last game of the tournament (France still involved, even when a French official can be used he's competing against Turpin, plus he had the 2nd last R16 game so unlikely to get a 1/4 final).

This will now look to all onlookers as though the Egyptian FA president has got his wish, which will fuel the further claims of injustice.
 
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