subs

[cancan]

Hi can, the teams are aloud to roll on roll off as many times as there wish during the 90 minutes but their can only have 5 substitute per team at the start of the game. Ian
How to manage this subs in game and what does it mean

 

[Archer]

Depends on the competition, but is standard for grassroots and youth league football.

The teams can name 5 players who will start as substitutes, but the number of substitutions they can make will be unlimited. If a player goes off, they can return later and replace someone in the pitch like normal. Everything done at a stoppage in play.

Here’s an example from the competition rules of a match I have coming up:



Check your particular competition rules as (especially) County Cups may differ.

REALISTICALLY, if this is the U13 Girls match you mentioned in another thread, the bench will shout “ref… sub!” when the ball’s out of play, and you stick your thumb up and go “yeah alright” and let them get on with it, then you restart play on the whistle.

(This is not best practice, but is what happens 99% of the time)

 

[cancan]

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Depends on the competition, but is standard for grassroots and youth league football.

The teams can name 5 players who will start as substitutes, but the number of substitutions they can make will be unlimited. If a player goes off, they can return later and replace someone in the pitch like normal. Everything done at a stoppage in play.

Here’s an example from the competition rules of a match I have coming up:

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Check your particular competition rules as (especially) County Cups may differ.

so the refs responsiblities are same but numbers change am i right and should i right every roll on and roll ofs

 

[cancan]

Depends on the competition, but is standard for grassroots and youth league football.

The teams can name 5 players who will start as substitutes, but the number of substitutions they can make will be unlimited. If a player goes off, they can return later and replace someone in the pitch like normal. Everything done at a stoppage in play.

Here’s an example from the competition rules of a match I have coming up:

View attachment 7871

Check your particular competition rules as (especially) County Cups may differ.

REALISTICALLY, if this is the U13 Girls match you mentioned in another thread, the bench will shout “ref… sub!” when the ball’s out of play, and you stick your thumb up and go “yeah alright” and let them get on with it, then you restart play on the whistle.

(This is not best practice, but is what happens 99% of the time)

I have 2 match asking for both open age sunday league and under 13

 

[Archer]

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so the refs responsiblities are same but numbers change am i right and should i right every roll on and roll ofs

I wouldn’t write anything down tbh.

HOWEVER Best administrative practice would be to take the numbers of the players who start on the bench, and tick them off as they come on

It’ll be easy to manage just letting them get on with it

 

[RefereeX]

Some people may say 'its not roll on, roll off - it's return substitutions'.

Semantics, but the difference is that to some, 'roll on, roll off' means they can change without a stoppage in the match. Return substitutions means that a player who was previously subbed off may be subbed back on, but only with the match stopped.

 

[DJIC]

Hi can, the teams are aloud to roll on roll off as many times as there wish during the 90 minutes but their can only have 5 substitute per team at the start of the game. Ian
How to manage this subs in game and what does it mean

Technically a quick check on jewellery, kit including shin pads for incoming player but you can do this on the pitch as opposed to off the pitch at the halfway line as per standard substitution procedure.

 

[RustyRef]

It isn't really roll on roll off, the changes have to be at a stoppage and with your permissions, same as in a game operating without repeat substitutions. You do need to take the numbers, of names if you don't have team sheets, of each player coming on as an unused substitute isn't deemed to have played in the game and the competition may ask you that.

 

[one]

Hi can, the teams are aloud to roll on roll off as many times as there wish during the 90 minutes but their can only have 5 substitute per team at the start of the game. Ian
How to manage this subs in game and what does it mean

Over to you @Kes

You have a new fried. I'm jealous

 

[Cowboy Ref]

Depends on the competition, but is standard for grassroots and youth league football.

The teams can name 5 players who will start as substitutes, but the number of substitutions they can make will be unlimited. If a player goes off, they can return later and replace someone in the pitch like normal. Everything done at a stoppage in play.

Here’s an example from the competition rules of a match I have coming up:

View attachment 7871

Check your particular competition rules as (especially) County Cups may differ.

REALISTICALLY, if this is the U13 Girls match you mentioned in another thread, the bench will shout “ref… sub!” when the ball’s out of play, and you stick your thumb up and go “yeah alright” and let them get on with it, then you restart play on the whistle.

(This is not best practice, but is what happens 99% of the time)

We follow same procedure in my area of Texas. In youth matches its a little disorganized for subs so every time when a coach is requesting a sub, he will shout "ref, sub!" and ref will blow whistle at the next stoppage to signal a pause for subs.

Also, if you are a AR, hold up both of your hands while holding both ends of the AR flag pole to signal a sub.

In older age matches, they will follow more organized and professional procedures (such as the subsituation board) to show a request for a sub.

 

[MDempster]

I find the nest way to manage this is to note the numbers of the 5 named substitutes prior to the game. Once that player enters the FOP mark him off and jot the number leaving the FOP next to it as they are now a substitue. If you do this, only using the original five you will have control and they will be unable to sneak an additional player on who wasn't originally named.

 

[ChasObserverRefDeveloper]

I find the nest way to manage this is to note the numbers of the 5 named substitutes prior to the game. Once that player enters the FOP mark him off and jot the number leaving the FOP next to it as they are now a substitue. If you do this, only using the original five you will have control and they will be unable to sneak an additional player on who wasn't originally named.

Less simple when players can go off and return later (sometimes more than once)

 

[RayCharles]

I just stop play. Let the two or three who leave get replaced. Take zero notice as long as say. 9 are back on for 9v9. Blow to carry on with throw in, goal kick etc.

My team I coach has squad of 13 for 9 a side. So 4 subs. We sub on 20 and 40 mins. No more. Equal playing time over the course of a season.

Some teams we play are swapping players every 5 mins. Just ensure they are off the pitch and crack on with the game

 

[RustyRef]

I just stop play. Let the two or three who leave get replaced. Take zero notice as long as say. 9 are back on for 9v9. Blow to carry on with throw in, goal kick etc.

My team I coach has squad of 13 for 9 a side. So 4 subs. We sub on 20 and 40 mins. No more. Equal playing time over the course of a season.

Some teams we play are swapping players every 5 mins. Just ensure they are off the pitch and crack on with the game

What would you do then if the league ask you which subs were used in the game? This can be important, as an unused sub isn't deemed to have played in that game, and that can affect things like cup tying, playing down rules, etc.

 

[RayCharles]

What would you do then if the league ask you which subs were used in the game? This can be important, as an unused sub isn't deemed to have played in that game, and that can affect things like cup tying, playing down rules, etc.

Not a single ref of 9v9 would be able to answer in this Saturday league.

 

[MDempster]

Less simple when players can go off and return later (sometimes more than once)

Not really. Where there is a second number please just imagine the underline is a crossing out as they have been used. It also helps know which players are on field should it go to penalties.

Subs
12 6
14 8
15 12
16 9 11
17
So 6 was replaced by 12, 8 by 14, 12 by 15, 9 by 16 and 11 by 9. 17 was unused.
The number of the far right is always the substitute on the sideline so these are the ones who cannot take part in penalties.

 

[santa sangria]

This is very specific to competition rules and will vary massively depending on what country you are in and what lesgue.

This thread is a bit daft if the country and league is not clearly stated. You will get lots of contradictory answers.

 

[RustyRef]

Not a single ref of 9v9 would be able to answer in this Saturday league.

In which case they could find themselves in hot water should anything go wrong. I know it is difficult with repeated subs, but as an absolute minimum you need to know which of the subs have actually been used.

 

[RefereeX]

I would imagine that 99% of the time all subs are used in situations where repeat substitutions are allowed? Otherwise what's the point in them being there. But agree that it may be important to know if someone didn't play any part.

 

[Archer]

Had cup semi yesterday with return subs allowed. Gave benchside NAR two blank postcards (one for each team), wrote the starting XI numbers on for both (not 1-11 annoyingly, but no big deal). Just note ON+OFF in turn, then we could double-check it in time order. Worked perfectly. Didn't over-complicate the eggy pudding, etc.

Of course, our pre-match brief with both managers was that SUBS MUST HAVE A BIB ON.