Motion that the team that won it can take it. If it hits them then stick the yellow in.One thing that annoys me is when you give a free kick and players stand on the ball to stop the free kick. Coaches shouting “stand on it” embarrassing really
Thatd be a grey area though. Because if the defending player doesnt do anything to intercept it then it would be a play onMotion that the team that won it can take it. If it hits them then stick the yellow in.
But if they deliberately stand so close that it’s going to hit them then a yellow surely? Like we saw in a PL game recentlyThatd be a grey area though. Because if the defending player doesnt do anything to intercept it then it would be a play on
Suppose it would be a YHTBT situation. I’ve used poor wording in my original post, because Lotg state if they intercept it, its play on.But if they deliberately stand so close that it’s going to hit them then a yellow surely? Like we saw in a PL game recently
Thatd be a grey area though. Because if the defending player doesnt do anything to intercept it then it would be a play on
Once a free kick is given and ball placed, defenders have to make effort to retreat to 10 yards. If they do and while doing the ball is hit in their direction and intercepted all good.Suppose it would be a YHTBT situation. I’ve used poor wording in my original post, because Lotg state if they intercept it, its play on.
Edit: except not for delaying the restart, for failing to respect the required distanceI don't see a problem with the laws, the problem is with referees who fail to enforce them. In this case, if a player stands on ball, come straight across and give a yellow for Delaying the restart. If all refs did this then the tactic would die out overnight.
Nah. I'd make it clear to the captain I won't be allowing that and will book anyone who follows the coach's instructions. If that doesn't get the message across to him I might take the opportunity at HT or when I have a dead ball near them to hold up the restart and explain that I've explicitly told his players not to do that, but unless he starts adding actual dissent or OFFINABUS to the instruction, I don't think that's particularly actionable on its own.Would you book a coach for shouting 'stand on it' or persistently shouting 'stand on it' after you have given a clear instruction not to?
Nice option I witnessed recently in a local league game, with a coach encouraging "Close it down" at all early free kicks for the opposition.Nah. I'd make it clear to the captain I won't be allowing that and will book anyone who follows the coach's instructions. If that doesn't get the message across to him I might take the opportunity at HT or when I have a dead ball near them to hold up the restart and explain that I've explicitly told his players not to do that, but unless he starts adding actual dissent or OFFINABUS to the instruction, I don't think that's particularly actionable on its own.
This is taught in academy’s to be fair if they don’t get back when asked there in the book don’t mind it personally.One thing that annoys me is when you give a free kick and players stand on the ball to stop the free kick. Coaches shouting “stand on it” embarrassing really
Can you expand on this? I've never heard anyone add this little detail.Once a free kick is given and ball placed, defenders have to make effort to retreat to 10 yards. If they do and while doing the ball is hit in their direction and intercepted all good.
However if they don't make effort to retreat or even worse attempt to get closer to the ball, then this is failure to respect the distance. You shouldn't even need the free kick to be taken for a caution. But if free kick is taken and the ball hits then, it makes it easier to sell.
Manage this the best you can to avoid a yellow card (eg, shout "move away number 4"...), but if players insist, you oblige.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I only bolded what I was asking about. Can you expand on the need for the "ball to be placed"? Do you mean, once the attacking player walks up to the ball for instance? Does that count as "being placed"?Can you expand on this? I've never heard anyone add this little detail.
I think he is referring to law 13:Sorry if I wasn't clear. I only bolded what I was asking about. Can you expand on the need for the "ball to be placed"? Do you mean, once the attacking player walks up to the ball for instance? Does that count as "being placed"?
Yes, But @one stated that "once the ball is placed", the defenders need to start backing away. I'm wondering what he meant by that. The referee doesn't place the ball; otherwise, it would be ceremonial and that's not what we are talking about here. So I'm wondering what he considers to be the trigger for when defenders need to start backing away.I think he is referring to law 13:
If, when a free kick is taken, an opponent is closer to the ball than the required
distance, the kick is retaken unless the advantage can be applied; but if a player
takes a free kick quickly and an opponent who is less than 9.15 m (10 yds) from
the ball intercepts it, the referee allows play to continue. However, an opponent
who deliberately prevents a free kick being taken quickly must be cautioned
for delaying the restart of play.
I think you're looking for a level of certainty and specificity that the LOTG generally doesn't have. It's unreasonable to expect the offender to have moved away before the offended-against team is ready to go - and the placement of the ball is usually a good indication that this time period is over and the offended-against team is ready to start playing. So that's a good indication that the other player shouldn't be actively obstructing the kick any longer. But that's a casual practical refereeing tip rather than a specific law.Yes, But @one stated that "once the ball is placed", the defenders need to start backing away. I'm wondering what he meant by that. The referee doesn't place the ball; otherwise, it would be ceremonial and that's not what we are talking about here. So I'm wondering what he considers to be the trigger for when defenders need to start backing away.