South Korea - Mexico
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santa sangria
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Ah yes sorry, just you quoted the next line. The line: "handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack" makes it a clear YC.
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Completely 100% agree with this. I played in defence so spent most games diving in front of shots and crosses, where you arm is doesn't even cross your mind. Players are not, and I don't think FIFA have worked this out, penguins and cannot throw their body with their arms pinned to their sides.
Under the ludicrous current interpretations then I agree with the penalty, but I don't agree with the interpretations.
I've compared it before to a long jumper. Granted a player diving in to block a shot or cross isn't following the same technique, at least not consciously anyway, but their body is likely to take a similar shape that will involve the arms coming up / out. In saying that such a handling incident is automatically intentional and a penalty, FIFA / IFAB are effectively saying that diving in to block a shot on goal is now not allowed. Or if allowed then they are saying that if it hits your arms in such a move then it is a penalty regardless of your intent.
This comes back to my view that the people making the laws don't actually understand what playing the game involves.
This comes back to my view that the people making the laws don't actually understand what playing the game involves.
Ciley Myrus
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Is it telling that, there was not too much protest, esp from the player himself?
Am same as you typed, am not penalising even when player is grounded but for me, he blocked/saved it
Mexico v Sweden suddenly gets very interesting!!!
santa sangria
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Wait what?
Are you even looking at the same incident as the rest of the world?
His arm was perpendicular.
And this is why FIFA puts together the Futuro III releases each year for instructors. Those instructors are supposed to direct instructors underneath them who direct the referees/etc.
The Futuro III CLEARLY states (and shows) that the slide here is handling. At all levels.
It may well show that, but that’s not what the law says.
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FIFA at a number of senior official training camps have been advising that any contact on the arm in a slide tackle is DHB. Full stop. That is the instruction not whether it is deliberate or not. Videos show to the groups are even more unintentional that the one here and the advice is to call it as handling. It is based on the notion that the slide is to stop the ball at all costs. If a FIFA ref is told to call those then that is what he does. He might not agree yet that is not his gift if he wants to stay at the tournament, be selected for future games and tournaments.
FIFA at a number of senior official training camps have been advising that any contact on the arm in a slide tackle is DHB. Full stop. That is the instruction not whether it is deliberate or not. Videos show to the groups are even more unintentional that the one here and the advice is to call it as handling. It is based on the notion that the slide is to stop the ball at all costs. If a FIFA ref is told to call those then that is what he does. He might not agree yet that is not his gift if he wants to stay at the tournament, be selected for future games and tournaments.
That's a load of tosh.........change the law if that's how you want it to be interpreted.
99% of handballs are unintentional. The consequences of doing it is usually match changing so why would you intentionally do it especially in the box! Why are they tinkering for tinkerings sake? I never had any issue in giving an honest appraisal on what I saw..... usually it was ball to hand, although that never stopped the fuitless appeals.
one
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I believe it was a deliberate handball in this case. However if "any contact on arm in a slide is DBH" was the case then if the referee does not call it it would be a clear and obvious error. In Argentina Vs Iceland there was a good example of it in the 42nd minute, no call from the ref and no review so not sure if your statement is entirely correct. Here is the vid.
https://ok.ru/video/790923119138?fromTime=2952
If that is true the clubs and nations should get together and rebel against FIFA to get the guidance overturned. As a player you need to know where you stand, and being told that you were guilt of intentionally handling the ball when it was a complete accident is farcical, and stops players from doing their jobs properly.
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