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YorkshireReferee said:
I spoke with a PGMOL referee recently who informed me a bit about this a few weeks back.

Basically TAG Heuer came to them and said 'What would you like'. The PGMOL referees basically said a stop and a start function, but TAG Heuer were insistent on going overboard. The watches have alsorts of apps built into them, Google Maps etc. When they started sticking all this in the PGMOL referees went with it and asked "Can it have a heart rate monitor built in" and "Can it have goal-line technology built in." Both responses were no but that they'll work on it for next season. Basically, due to them not wanting to wear a shed load of different watches, they've stopped wearing the wrist HR monitors. The watch has a load of stuff they don't want, and doesn't have a load of stuff they want. Hopefully they stick to their plans for next season and integrate HR monitoring and GLT.
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so for the sake of commercisalism the referees this season are working without a heart rate monitor
 
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I cannot believe that they aren't wearing some form of HR monitor, even if it is a device which is not worn on the wrist but secreted elsewhere on their person for recording purposes?
 
SM said:
I cannot believe that they aren't wearing some form of HR monitor, even if it is a device which is not worn on the wrist but secreted elsewhere on their person for recording purposes?
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i would be utterly amased if they were not wearing some kind of hrm
 
Why would it amaze you if they weren't wearing one? Personally, I can't see what the hype is all about with prem refs having HRM's. Anyone care to explain?
 
You can certainly get cheaper watches with all the Apps support. I'm a big fan of the Garmin Forerunner 735. It has a wrist-based HR sensor which is handy for grabbing that data without a strap, and it seems pretty accurate (I've used straps before).
 
As I said before, they had the best GPS HRM on the market already, the V800. I'm not aware of any chest straps that will actually record the data, rather they just measure it and send it back to some other kind of device such as a watch or a smart phone. So now they have the TAG on one wrist and the goal line decision watch on the other, and I can't see what would be recording any HR data.
 
DB said:
Why would it amaze you if they weren't wearing one? Personally, I can't see what the hype is all about with prem refs having HRM's. Anyone care to explain?
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All athletes rely heavily on monitoring their heart rate to ensure they are training optimally, and whilst top level referees aren't technically athletes they need to have incredibly high fitness levels to keep up with the pace of Premier League games.

I can only assume they still use the V800s for training and don't have any recording during games.
 
Yeah see that was my train of thought. Just wondered if you guys knew something that I didn't, like their fitness levels get monitored by the FA/EPL or something for the statisticians to look at :)
 
DB said:
Yeah see that was my train of thought. Just wondered if you guys knew something that I didn't, like their fitness levels get monitored by the FA/EPL or something for the statisticians to look at :)
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They certainly send in their training recordings to the PGMOL fitness gurus, or at least they used to with the old watches. Don't know if that has now changed.
 
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SM said:
I still think the v800 is poor for GPS. Garmin seems far more accurate.
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Don't agree, I use the V800 now and before that had the Garmin Forerunner 610. I can't really see any difference with GPS between the two, runs that I did before with the Garmin are reporting almost the exact same distance with the Polar. I've also found that the Polar is much better at picking up the GPS signal, especially when in a location I haven't been to recently, something the Garmin really struggled with.

GPS aside though the V800 is much more accurate with the heart rate, certainly seems that way for me any way.
 
The problem I have with the v800 which I own for the record and use regularly as my main hrm is its poor at picking up changes of pace. It leads to very poor recognition of distance covered when it is not s straight forward run.

It doesn't do change of pace very well. Steady state runs it is awesome. Outside of that, not so much
 
joe cunningham said:
What watch have you bought?
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A Samsung Gear S2.

It looks fantastic and is a joy to use thanks to the rotating bezel, but the Samsung app store (separate from the Android wear store) is insanely short on apps. I can use the built in countdown timer to aid my refereeing as it vibrates when it reaches 0 rather than beeping and it will still track my HR/steps, but the specialist refereeing apps are nowhere to be seen at the moment. I think I'll probably stick with it, but it's not going to be as big a part of my refereeing as I hoped, at least for now.
 
GraemeS said:
A Samsung Gear S2.

It looks fantastic and is a joy to use thanks to the rotating bezel, but the Samsung app store (separate from the Android wear store) is insanely short on apps. I can use the built in countdown timer to aid my refereeing as it vibrates when it reaches 0 rather than beeping and it will still track my HR/steps, but the specialist refereeing apps are nowhere to be seen at the moment. I think I'll probably stick with it, but it's not going to be as big a part of my refereeing as I hoped, at least for now.
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I currently use an Iwatch and there is a fantastic free app on IOS called GOREF. I'm not sure whether it is on android/Samsung Yet but if anybody does have an Iwatch it's definitely worth getting!!!
 
jofusref said:
so for the sake of commercisalism the referees this season are working without a heart rate monitor
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Or alternatively, as the person who actually spoke to a PGMOL referee about this said, it was for the sake of "not wanting to wear a shed load of different watches." And he only said "they've stopped wearing the wrist HR monitors" - not that they've stopped wearing any kind of HR monitor (though that is also a possibility).
 
Peter Grove said:
Or alternatively, as the person who actually spoke to a PGMOL referee about this said, it was for the sake of "not wanting to wear a shed load of different watches." And he only said "they've stopped wearing the wrist HR monitors" - not that they've stopped wearing any kind of HR monitor (though that is also a possibility).
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They never had wrist heart rate monitors. Polar V800 on one wrist and the goal decision watch on the other, neither or those are wrist based HRMs.
 
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