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Step 3/4 to Step 2 (Level 3A to Level 2B) - Referee (9)

Surname First Name County FA
Allsopp Jake Birmingham FA
Baines Daniel Essex FA
Blair Harrison Surrey FA
Breen Tommy London FA
Chadwick Jonathan Lancashire FA
England Dan Huntingdonshire FA
Holmes Richard Lancashire FA
Jones Callum Liverpool FA
Oakes Nathan Essex FA

Step 5/6 to Step 3/4 Referee & Step 3/4 to Step 2 Assistant Referee (Level 4 to Level 3) (32)

Surname First Name County FA
Aguilar Cabanes Pablo Sussex FA
Barclay Shawn Surrey FA
Berry Thomas Surrey FA
Bingley Thomas Leicestershire & Rutland FA
Bromham Jack Somerset FA
Churchill Jack Manchester FA
Coulson Ryan East Riding FA
Crowhurst Scott Army FA
Cunningham Zachary Northamptonshire FA
Cutler Simon Kent FA
Drake Joshua Sheffield & Hallamshire FA
Dutton Tyler Durham FA
Eyre Josh Cornwall FA
Farr Thomas Hampshire FA
Fittes David Durham FA
Francioni Alessandro Bedfordshire FA
Gray Joseph Essex FA
Lane Neil Devon FA
Lowe Grace Nottinghamshire FA
Moss Matthew Lancashire FA
Olol Abdul London FA
Pattison Michael Worcestershire FA
Reece Nick Hertfordshire FA
Reilly Mark Shropshire FA
Scott Gavin Sheffield & Hallamshire FA
Stevenson Jamie Northamptonshire FA
Tingey Marcus Berks & Bucks FA
Viera Jacob Liverpool FA
White Liam Hampshire FA
Wood Craig Essex FA
Woodyatt Daniel Manchester FA
Wyatt Declan Surrey FA

Level 5 to Step 5/6 Referee & Step 3/4 Assistant Referee (Level 5 to Level 4) (25)

Surname First Name County FA
Corrie George Liverpool FA
Dermody Michael Manchester FA
Douglas Ellis West Riding FA
Durie Richard Gloucestershire FA
Fabry Luke Army FA
Gierczyk Jakub Northamptonshire FA
Gray Levi Army FA
Hayes Kaan Manchester FA
Hodson Christopher Derbyshire FA
Jackson Doninic West Riding FA
Johnston David Army FA
Kidd Thomas Birmingham FA
Lam Jonathan Bedfordshire FA
McGuinness James Sheffield & Hallamshire FA
Park Andrew Lincolnshire FA
Pratten Mark Gloucestershire FA
Redman Steve Somerset FA
Rees Luke Gloucestershire FA
Rendell Matt Hertfordshire FA
Saunders Stephen Berks & Bucks FA
Smith Kane Cheshire FA
Soulsby Kian Birmingham FA
Wilmot Samuel Gloucestershire FA
Wroe Gary Army FA
Yordanov Ivan Middlesex FA

Step 2 Assistant Referee to Step 1 Assistant Referee (11)

Surname First Name County FA
Burrows Michael Durham FA
Hallam Aaron Sheffield & Hallamshire FA
Henry Scott Cumberland FA
Holmes David North Riding FA
Hooper James Gloucestershire FA
Malton Matthew Manchester FA
Mayer Elliott Amateur Football Alliance FA
Nield Jack Cheshire FA
Shipp Alexander Suffolk FA
Tewson James Nottinghamshire FA
Wilson Adam Gloucestershire FA

Specialist Route - Step 3/4 to Step 2 Assistant Referee (Level 4SAR to Level 3F) (4)

Surname First Name
Barron Karl Durham FA
Birch Jack Cambridgeshire FA
Fullicks Richard Northamptonshire FA
Greaves Gordon West Riding FA
 
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Impressive - the 5 to 4 promotions were only emailed out Friday and confirmation yesterday via email (still awaiting league pool allocation)
 
RefereeX said:
Interesting that there are more 4-3 mid season promotions than 5-4. Is this the start of thinning down the number of 4's? Or just a coincidence?

Also, my unknown identity is now down to 1 of 32! They're on to me.
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Unless there are plans for 4th officials to operate below Step 1 then they need to reconsider the numbers above 4, certainly at 2b. I don't hear many 3s referencing lack of games but some will be in their decision year at the end of the season which will impact numbers again.
 
RefGod said:
I don't hear many 3s referencing lack of games but some will be in their decision year at the end of the season which will impact numbers again.
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Do you not read my posts 😂

I know that 3s in the south west (certainly Cornwall/Devon) are suffering lack of games and I know similar experience in the North West.

There's a high concentration of 3s in some areas with not enough step 3/4 football to go around. Usually 2 middles and 1 line a month. Often it can be less.
 
JamesL said:
Do you not read my posts 😂

I know that 3s in the south west (certainly Cornwall/Devon) are suffering lack of games and I know similar experience in the North West.

There's a high concentration of 3s in some areas with not enough step 3/4 football to go around. Usually 2 middles and 1 line a month. Often it can be less.
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Anecdotally, I don't hear 3s referencing this with most doing at least 4 middles a month, sometimes with a line too. The geographical issue within the South West isn't new. There are some Step 2 clubs that way, although the South will likely lose Yeovil to the Premier. Even if 3/2bs are used more for 4ths lower down the pyramid, I doubt it will add many more fixtures per referee in that region.
 
JamesL said:
Do you not read my posts 😂

I know that 3s in the south west (certainly Cornwall/Devon) are suffering lack of games and I know similar experience in the North West.

There's a high concentration of 3s in some areas with not enough step 3/4 football to go around. Usually 2 middles and 1 line a month. Often it can be less.
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At risk of making my identity from the list above even less of a secret, referees in my area (midlands) don't tend to have issues. I know of someone who is referee only who has only had a couple of saturday's off all season (postponements aside). But obviously midlands referees I suppose are easier to appoint as they can go anywhere.
 
RefGod said:
Anecdotally, I don't hear 3s referencing this with most doing at least 4 middles a month, sometimes with a line too. The geographical issue within the South West isn't new. There are some Step 2 clubs that way, although the South will likely lose Yeovil to the Premier. Even if 3/2bs are used more for 4ths lower down the pyramid, I doubt it will add many more fixtures per referee in that region.
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The geography is tough here. We're kind of in a balancing period at the moment. We've a good chance of gaining 3 or 4 step 3/4 teams with relegation and promotion from step 2 and 5 respectively. Since step 5 became level 4 it significantly impacted the number of games available, possibly by more than half.

I do struggle with the North West conundrum. There's hoards of step 3 and 4 clubs but still a similar shortage of games. So I have heard.
 
RefereeX said:
At risk of making my identity from the list above even less of a secret, referees in my area (midlands) don't tend to have issues. I know of someone who is referee only who has only had a couple of saturday's off all season (postponements aside). But obviously midlands referees I suppose are easier to appoint as they can go anywhere.
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Yes. Can do Southern League south, southern league central and dip into Northern leagues too. You'll be a busy boy..keep on top of the comp rules as they do vary between the leagues.
 
JamesL said:
Yes. Can do Southern League south, southern league central and dip into Northern leagues too. You'll be a busy boy..keep on top of the comp rules as they do vary between the leagues.
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As an AR I have had appointments on Southern, Isthmian and Northern! So yes, will make sure I study up.
 
JamesL said:
Do you not read my posts 😂

I know that 3s in the south west (certainly Cornwall/Devon) are suffering lack of games and I know similar experience in the North West.

There's a high concentration of 3s in some areas with not enough step 3/4 football to go around. Usually 2 middles and 1 line a month. Often it can be less.
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I've got 2 middles in February and nothing else, but both of my middles are Tuesday night games.
A colleague who has also gone 4-3 mid-season has 2 middles on midweek games and 1 line on a monday afternoon game. Neither of us have any Saturday appointments.

Appears like (understandably) appointments were already all done and us newbies have been used to fill the gaps. So it's promising that I've got as many middles as I've had in any month so far despite this being a last minute situation!
 
RefereeX said:
I've got 2 middles in February and nothing else, but both of my middles are Tuesday night games.
A colleague who has also gone 4-3 mid-season has 2 middles on midweek games and 1 line on a monday afternoon game. Neither of us have any Saturday appointments.

Appears like (understandably) appointments were already all done and us newbies have been used to fill the gaps. So it's promising that I've got as many middles as I've had in any month so far despite this being a last minute situation!
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1 line. 1 middle. Fairly standard month for me. Nice 3 hour trip on a Tues eve as well. Leave 3pm. Home after 1am.
 
RefereeX said:
I've got 2 middles in February and nothing else, but both of my middles are Tuesday night games.
A colleague who has also gone 4-3 mid-season has 2 middles on midweek games and 1 line on a monday afternoon game. Neither of us have any Saturday appointments.

Appears like (understandably) appointments were already all done and us newbies have been used to fill the gaps. So it's promising that I've got as many middles as I've had in any month so far despite this being a last minute situation!
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I wouldn't bet on it !
2 lines and 1 middle for me this month at level 3. Same as last month - lots of time on the couch !
The middle will almost certainly be observed and nearly a month after the last one. That's the bit I find hardest
 
I'm intrigued to know if those operating as a 4 or 3 make themselves available to Step 7 and below if you're not active on steps 6-4 on a weekend?
 
Quarryref said:
I wouldn't bet on it !
2 lines and 1 middle for me this month at level 3. Same as last month - lots of time on the couch !
The middle will almost certainly be observed and nearly a month after the last one. That's the bit I find hardest
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I take local games in between but they're just not comparable in terms of competitiveness, skill level etc.
 
SWilmot said:
I'm intrigued to know if those operating as a 4 or 3 make themselves available to Step 7 and below if you're not active on steps 6-4 on a weekend?
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I wondered that too. If you haven’t been appointed to the higher level weekend matches, rather than not do anything why wouldn’t you then make yourself available for lower level games? In my area there are numerous matches that are not covered by qualified refs every weekend and I’m not talking young mini soccer I mean adult district leagues and older youth leagues.
 
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