santa sangria
RefChat Addict
Ederson - 91st min - stops the ball leaving the field with his hand - waits - pressure comes - picks it up - surely an offence?
It's not a save...
It's not a save...
That'll never be givenEderson - 91st min - stops the ball leaving the field with his hand - waits - pressure comes - picks it up - surely an offence?
It's not a save...
But is it an offence?That'll never be given
That'll never be given
But is it an offence?
But is it an offence?
Having posted about my situation earlier, the ref I spoke to said it could be construed as a save then the ball in hands after so on that basis, it's probably better not to give than to give.
But is it an offence?
I don't think that is very accurate either. The offence is:I don’t think whether or not it is a save has anything to do with the analysis of whether it is a second possession.
I think the way the IFAB wants this to be treated can be inferred from the change they made to this part of the law (and accompanying explanation) in 2018. The removal of the word "accidentally" and the way they explain it suggests to me that they don't really want keepers punished for picking the ball up again after parrying it to the ground, even if it wasn't accidental.Didn't we have a brilliant example of the law on here where one of the keepers caught a ball in the air and dropped it, only to pick it up again and the IFAB via email said it wasn't an offence?
It was a good topic I think.
Better to give a warning first if it does happen, since it's so unusual an offence that you'll have a job explaining it if you punish it.
Keeping up with changes is getting ridiculous. The distinction between parry and save was always a fine one. Making it explicit that for a goal kick the ball must be stationary.... the early long kick by Ederson to Aguero being a case in point. Ref didn't give it and only stopped play when Aguero had an open goal... presumably the AR told him on coms but it looked awful.
As for the "offside" there is so much wrong with this. Defender's shoulder seems beyond the line drawn with his butt, and that ball really looks like it's already left the attacker's head.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKFXU19XUAEedAr?format=jpg&name=small
Then there's the farce of the ref apparently telling the AR to put his flag up. I'd like to think the perfunctory way the AR raised his flag was because he thought VAR is awful and was going to get the decision wrong.
And can we avoid "fandom" titles to threads...