deusex
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Ha, I sometimes can be over dramatic so I'm not too upset. But a lot of rhetoric here
Manchester United v Bournemouth
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Ha, I sometimes can be over dramatic so I'm not too upset. But a lot of rhetoric here
A night at the Panto for me, Peter Pan, it’s a seasonal comedy about Wendy, a character living in Never Never Land.....
Can someone summarise the game for me???
Can someone summarise the game for me???
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I'll try......squad of overpaid players won't play for manager, manager gets replaced, new manager releases genie from a bottle who returns all their skills and they win their third on the trot......or similar....I'd have sacked the lot.....A night at the Panto for me, Peter Pan, it’s a seasonal comedy about Wendy, a character living in Never Never Land.....
Can someone summarise the game for me???
spuddy1878
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Bailly could have seen two reds (i know thats not possible), both 100% nailed on red cards, cant see how anyone can really suggest otherwise.
Young is borderline red, could not have any complaints if its a red card at all and no issue with the ref going yellow on this one.
Young is borderline red, could not have any complaints if its a red card at all and no issue with the ref going yellow on this one.
Ciley Myrus
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can he still get a misconduct charge for the 1st one? ( I don't know the FA procedure for retrospective action).
Easy to say Utd strolled it, they did, but, if Bmth score the pk its 3-2 v 10 men, so, you never know....
Possibly. The criteria for retrospective action is. ...
- firstly, for acts of violent conduct that occur secondarily to a challenge for the ball;
- and secondly, in off-the-ball incidents where one or more match official did see the players coming together, but the match officials’ view was such that none of them had the opportunity to make a decision on an act of misconduct that took place within that coming together.
Ciley Myrus
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Of course lets omit the small matter of, the ball.
Even saying, he gets wiped out, and you need to give thought to whether that is a red or not is worrying
Its at speed
Its nowhere near the ball
No regard for opponets safety (I guess you can see his right boot clattering into the Bmouth ankle?)
Its out of control
The 2nd foot is about to also make contact, he actually does cement him with first the right then the left foot, therefore 1 and 1 makes, erm 2? Its factual that both Bailley boots connect, so, 2 footed.
reading the above, I had to go back and look at pause this on 16 secs and both feet are indeed airbourne
for case of doubt, 26 secs also shows both feet in air, out of control.
Even saying, he gets wiped out, and you need to give thought to whether that is a red or not is worrying
Its at speed
Its nowhere near the ball
No regard for opponets safety (I guess you can see his right boot clattering into the Bmouth ankle?)
Its out of control
The 2nd foot is about to also make contact, he actually does cement him with first the right then the left foot, therefore 1 and 1 makes, erm 2? Its factual that both Bailley boots connect, so, 2 footed.
reading the above, I had to go back and look at pause this on 16 secs and both feet are indeed airbourne
for case of doubt, 26 secs also shows both feet in air, out of control.
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deusex
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Oh yes the ball is nowhere to be seen
A player has to be off the ground much closer to the point of contact, otherwise half of normal sliding tackles are SFP.
I've yet to see any replay showing anything appalling by Bailly's right foot other than him tripping his opponent.
"regards for opponents safety" is, again, an insanely generic "cover everything" term.
You have completely changed the definition of "2 footed" to fit your argument.
Defending a Manure player by the looks of things!!!Indeed - the thread title is Man Utd v Bournemouth - not sure what the other Manchester club is doing on here!
Ciley Myrus
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Oh yes the ball is nowhere to be seen
A player has to be off the ground much closer to the point of contact, otherwise half of normal sliding tackles are SFP.
I've yet to see any replay showing anything appalling by Bailly's right foot other than him tripping his opponent.
"regards for opponents safety" is, again, an insanely generic "cover everything" term.
You have completely changed the definition of "2 footed" to fit your argument.
As I alluded to yesterday, your coach/mentor/class tutor or a senior referee who attends your training area will be able to point you the right direction on this one.
It would be more rewarding for you and constructive to hear it from them
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Oh yes the ball is nowhere to be seen
A player has to be off the ground much closer to the point of contact, otherwise half of normal sliding tackles are SFP.
I've yet to see any replay showing anything appalling by Bailly's right foot other than him tripping his opponent.
"regards for opponents safety" is, again, an insanely generic "cover everything" term.
You have completely changed the definition of "2 footed" to fit your argument.
That image alone is enough. He's off the ground with his legs in front of the body and leaning back. You just cannot tackle like that any more and these days if you do you run a very high risk of seeing red.
It’s the scissor movement, doesn’t look too clever to me. Was this carded??
Yes, half of all sliding tackles are dangerous as the tackler has no control......half the rest are so poor they get nowhere near the player or ball.....you can probably do the maths.....View attachment 2840
Oh yes the ball is nowhere to be seen
A player has to be off the ground much closer to the point of contact, otherwise half of normal sliding tackles are SFP.
I've yet to see any replay showing anything appalling by Bailly's right foot other than him tripping his opponent.
"regards for opponents safety" is, again, an insanely generic "cover everything" term.
You have completely changed the definition of "2 footed" to fit your argument.
OGS accepted it was a red without question. If the manager thinks that "He can't complain" then you must be on to a winner!!
Not that it's relevant what the manager thinks of course, but it's just an easy red all day long.
Young has got away with several of these challenges in recent months. His tackling technique is poor under modern LOTG reasoning and it's a matter of time before he gets an early bath.
One last thing. As Bailley was challenging for the ball in the penalty incident, I assume that there will be no retrospective action. His tackling technique is worse that Youngs. I've said since the first time I saw him (Manchester derby, his 2nd game) that whilst he is a phenomenal athlete, he is a million miles away from being a top centre half. Always our of position, Always off his feet and underneath the ball. He was bought on potential because of his physical attributes but he's not learnt much about defending in time in England, which is surprising under Mourinho
Not that it's relevant what the manager thinks of course, but it's just an easy red all day long.
Young has got away with several of these challenges in recent months. His tackling technique is poor under modern LOTG reasoning and it's a matter of time before he gets an early bath.
One last thing. As Bailley was challenging for the ball in the penalty incident, I assume that there will be no retrospective action. His tackling technique is worse that Youngs. I've said since the first time I saw him (Manchester derby, his 2nd game) that whilst he is a phenomenal athlete, he is a million miles away from being a top centre half. Always our of position, Always off his feet and underneath the ball. He was bought on potential because of his physical attributes but he's not learnt much about defending in time in England, which is surprising under Mourinho