Liverpool vs Arsenal

[Tim Punter]

The big talking point from today's game. Seemed a pretty clear penalty.


Around 53 seconds in

 

[CaptainsPlease]

That's a clear missed penalty and DOGSO-Red.

 

[RustyRef]

That's a clear missed penalty and DOGSO-Red.

It might be a missed penalty, but there's no way on earth it would have been a red card.

 

[CaptainsPlease]

It might be a missed penalty, but there's no way on earth it would have been a red card.

Care to explain?

 

[Redref34]

In my opinion - and from my armchair - I don’t think he is getting his head on that even without the pull.

 

[Redref34]

In my opinion - and from my armchair - I don’t think he is getting his head on that even without the pull.

And I think he knows that - hence he didn’t really complain much or make much of it.

 

[RustyRef]

Care to explain?

Because the referee would need to have a certainty that he would be getting onto the end of the cross.

I can't remember any occasions of DOGSO where it has been a cross in and a player who might have got onto the end of it being fouled.

 

[CaptainsPlease]

Because the referee would need to have a certainty that he would be getting onto the end of the cross.

I can't remember any occasions of DOGSO where it has been a cross in and a player who might have got onto the end of it being fouled.

This is how close he got while being pulled back. It's an obvious goalscoring opportunity for me.

 

[socal lurker]

This is how close he got while being pulled back. It's an obvious goalscoring opportunity for me.
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I understand the argument, but I can’t think of a single example from a professional game in which a foul before a potential header was called as DOGSO. Based on that, I don’t think DOGSO is the expected call (assuming it is a foul). (I don’t really have an opinion on whether it is a foul as I’ve only seen still shots, which can’t prove anything—I was amused by a media take that it doesn’t look like he is slowed down by the pull at full speed, but you can tell he was at 1/4 speed. Exactly the kind of thing slow mom is NOT supposed to be used for by a VAR. My gut is that a VAR would not have sent down either way, call or no call on the PK.)

 

[one]

Only seen the extended highlights. The game seemed to have a high bar for referee intervention for big decisions. This tends to happen when big clubs play against other big clubs. Referees are very cautious on impacting the outcome of the game. While the shirt pull incident was a much clearer decision, there were other penalty shouts and at least 2 red cards that could have gone either way. The referee decided to not get involved in all of them.

 

[Big Cat]

Denied a free header from 7 yards out by way of an unsporting shirt pull. Straight forward DOGSO with a strong hint of cheating. I don't think Isak realized the impact the pull had on his momentum. I think he's still has at the stage of having the potential to be a 'top player', but he's not there yet as a 'top player' would have gotten Timber sent off for this