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Learning the rules after witnessing violent conduct U8's training session

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Wow, what a tail this has created!

Genuine question from a potential future ref and I've had the rule book thrown at me.

Good club, good coach..... Guess I chose the wrong referee forum for friendly good will and guidance.
 
llordvenger said:
Wow, what a tail this has created!

Genuine question from a potential future ref and I've had the rule book thrown at me.

Good club, good coach..... Guess I chose the wrong referee forum for friendly good will and guidance.
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We're employed to apply law, the fact we refer back to law a lot shouldn't be a surprise?

I'm genuinely wondering what response you were expecting here, because as far as I can tell, myself and at least 3 other posters have attempted to answer your question politely and as accurately as possible despite it not being actually what any of us do.

Seriously - I'm missing something clearly. Can you rephrase/restate your question, because I must be missing it if you think it hasn't been answered?
 
I’ll give you some advice…

I suggest if you feel like your lad has been assaulted then perhaps you should go to the police.
 
llordvenger said:
Genuine question from a potential future ref and I've had the rule book thrown at me.
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So as a potential future referee, with this very specific scenario, where do you feel the role of a referee fits with it?

Wish you all the best with your refereeing journey. This site is a fantastic resource for help and support and we'll all be more than happy to assist with any questions you have about the role of a referee or specific match scenarios you encounter.
 
llordvenger said:
Wow, what a tail this has created!

Genuine question from a potential future ref and I've had the rule book thrown at me.

Good club, good coach..... Guess I chose the wrong referee forum for friendly good will and guidance.
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In all honesty mate, I've actually referenced an almost identical incident, what happened, and the general process and outcome in my previous message.

We would all wholeheartedly recommend refereeing as a hobby, I'm sure of that, but if you do take it up, you'll have to realise that as referees, we actually don't know loads about club processes, and furthermore to that, any questions you've asked us relating to law, we've answered, explaining Serious Foul Play VS Violent Conduct, even though that falls outside of Law 5, as previously pointed out.

I can't see any point where we've not tried to be helpful and impartial?
 
RefRyanAus said:
Seriously… you are taking on and questioning the advice of a highly skilled and experienced referee who has displayed, in my opinion, incredible patience and grace in responding to your query. I am sorry your son was injured in training, this is unfortunate. But James has given you thoughtful and legally correct answers to your theoretical game day scenarios. Might be best to leave it there?
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Very well said sir
 
llordvenger said:
Has been answered thanks

But with about as much humility as the police force
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I've just seen this thread, as I have been out all day training potential referees (one of three courses we are running in my area this week as it's half term in England)
Sorry to hear of your son's injury.
Hopefully you will have realised that this sad incident - very rare at that age - is one that needs to be dealt with by the club staff and their welfare officer, as they are responsible for child protection issues within the club. If you are unhappy with their response, you have the option to contact the County Football Association, who would take it on as a welfare issue.
The refereeing fraternity would obviously deal with any such incident in a match, but anything in training is not something we can advise on as child welfare is a specialist field, dealt with by trained staff at each level.
Hope you get an outcome to satisfy you and your son.
 
Late to this after work, but I'm not sure what you are looking for. This is a refereeing forum (and if we were as horrible as you have made out I would have already deleted your account), and you have asked about something that happened in a training session. When has a referee ever taken charge of a training session? You know the answer to that, and the only advice we can give you is related to if the same situation happened in a game. That advice has been given but you don't seem to want to accept it.

If you do go on to become a referee you will of course be welcome here and will hopefully get a lot of useful advice.
 
ChasObserverRefDeveloper said:
I've just seen this thread, as I have been out all day training potential referees (one of three courses we are running in my area this week as it's half term in England)
Sorry to hear of your son's injury.
Hopefully you will have realised that this sad incident - very rare at that age - is one that needs to be dealt with by the club staff and their welfare officer, as they are responsible for child protection issues within the club. If you are unhappy with their response, you have the option to contact the County Football Association, who would take it on as a welfare issue.
The refereeing fraternity would obviously deal with any such incident in a match, but anything in training is not something we can advise on as child welfare is a specialist field, dealt with by trained staff at each level.
Hope you get an outcome to satisfy you and your son.
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Thank you so much - lateral thinking - seems entirely reasonable
 
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