If a junior coach is sent off and gets a 3 game ban can they attend the venue of the game of own son playing?
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I coached alongside someone who got a ban in adult football and it was "all football activity" so his wife brought their lad along for three weeks. Now, whether he could have watched as a spectator or not was unclear, but we didn't chance it.If a junior coach is sent off and gets a 3 game ban can they attend the venue of the game of own son playing?
This wouldn’t be practical due to safeguarding of single parent households might run into legal issues if challenged to.Any non-player suspension at grassroots level should be a ground ban, meaning the participant can't be in attendance before, during or after the fixture.
That's not me saying how I feel suspensions should be imposed, that's me passing on what the guidance is that The FA have given to County FAs.This wouldn’t be practical due to safeguarding of single parent households might run into legal issues if challenged to.
Not really. If a parent can't behave and gets himself / herself banned from a game, and no one else can take their child to play, that is just a consequence of their actions. The child misses out because of the actions of their parent. Although I doubt the suspension would affect them dropping the child off and handing over to one of the club's responsible adults, and then collecting them after the game.This wouldn’t be practical due to safeguarding of single parent households might run into legal issues if challenged to.
I’m just quoting Durham CFA on why it wouldn’t be practical as I was curious so asked the question to our RDO sorry should of clarified.Not really. If a parent can't behave and gets himself / herself banned from a game, and no one else can take their child to play, that is just a consequence of their actions. The child misses out because of the actions of their parent. Although I doubt the suspension would affect them dropping the child off and handing over to one of the club's responsible adults, and then collecting them after the game.
And that is how it works in the laws of the land as well. Some considerations may be given to the impact when setting the 'punishment' but ultimately the innocent suffering the consequences doesn't mean the guilty is not punished.Not really. If a parent can't behave and gets himself / herself banned from a game, and no one else can take their child to play, that is just a consequence of their actions. The child misses out because of the actions of their parent. Although I doubt the suspension would affect them dropping the child off and handing over to one of the club's responsible adults, and then collecting them after the game.
Not sure I would be at all comfortable with being in any way involved in this outcomeAnd that is how it works in the laws of the land as well. Some considerations may be given to the impact when setting the 'punishment' but ultimately the innocent suffering the consequences doesn't mean the guilty is not punished.
That's how it works though, and not just in football. I remember reading that one of the people in court for the riots last year gave mitigation that he was the breadwinner for his family, and if he was jailed they wouldn't be able to pay the mortgage. He was still jailed and his family suffered as a result of his actions, and probably in a far worse way than a child not being able to play football because their parent had got himself banned from the venue.Not sure I would be at all comfortable with being in any way involved in this outcome![]()
The alternative is worse. It would allow individuals to misuse their position of being responsible for minors as an excuse for their crimes (or the equivalant in football terms) to go unpunished.Not sure I would be at all comfortable with being in any way involved in this outcome![]()
as I say my CFA see it different when I asked and I tend to agree with them on this.That's how it works though, and not just in football. I remember reading that one of the people in court for the riots last year gave mitigation that he was the breadwinner for his family, and if he was jailed they wouldn't be able to pay the mortgage. He was still jailed and his family suffered as a result of his actions, and probably in a far worse way than a child not being able to play football because their parent had got himself banned from the venue.
Actions have consequences, and they don't always just affect the person performing the actions.
With respect, the opinion of your RDO (who is not part of the Discipline team) is not relevant here. Speak to your CFA Discipline Manager Tracey and you'll find that's not the way it's done.as I say my CFA see it different when I asked and I tend to agree with them on this.
involvement with the match does not include spectating have now had this clarifiedWith respect, the opinion of your RDO (who is not part of the Discipline team) is not relevant here. Speak to your CFA Discipline Manager Tracey and you'll find that's not the way it's done.
Whoever has clarified with you is wrong I'm afraid. A ground ban is just that, a ground ban, which means they are banned from the ground. The poster that @ARF shared really couldn't be any more clear about that.involvement with the match does not include spectating have now had this clarified
So, you seriously think that a coach who acts like a scrote and gets themselves banned from the ground should still be permitted to attend the ground cos little Johnny can't miss his football game?as I say my CFA see it different when I asked and I tend to agree with them on this.

You're not the coach in question by any chance are you?involvement with the match does not include spectating have now had this clarified


Not to mention abuse the next referee with no chance of personal punishment as he is there as a spectator rather than a coach. It would just make zero sense to ban a coach from a venue but let him attend as a spectator.So, you seriously think that a coach who acts like a scrote and gets themselves banned from the ground should still be permitted to attend the ground cos little Johnny can't miss his football game?![]()