Not really I'm 17 and u15s are 14 yr olds (no malice intended)
How unsporting
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spuddy1878
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Thats what i mean, i know there has to be a 2 year gap but personally think it should be more like 5 years so a 17 year old could only do U12s and below.
Oh ok sorry then mate
In my county stats were released that there is 600 more games than affiliated referees
Most league's in Sheffield are by appointment, but there is a Saturday morning league where the home team have to arrange a ref. I've reffed one team 4 times this season and have been asked to do 7 more. It's accepted without any issues and I've had no problems so far this season.
santa sangria
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"Home teams getting their own refs"
This does not compute...
Are you not part of some kind of structure with a refsec/rdo for these games?
You've been refereeing for two years... all games booked by teams rather than leagues with a refsec?
This does not compute...
Are you not part of some kind of structure with a refsec/rdo for these games?
You've been refereeing for two years... all games booked by teams rather than leagues with a refsec?
There are 3 different Sunday Leagues in Sheffield, all have ref secretaries. There is also a Saturday afternoon vets league with a ref secretary. I live near the derbyshire border and the league in that County has a ref secretary. However, the Sheffield Fair Play League does not have a ref secretary and the league doesn't involve themselves with referee appointments other than updating a contact list.
ALL by home team no ref sec till u18 and above
In my area the adult leagues and county youth league all have a referee appointment officer, and hopefully enough refs to cover the games. So does the east kent youth league, but they have probably 50 games a week to cover at all ages and at most a dozen referees to do them, so most games are left to the home team to sort out. If they are lucky they can find a qualified ref. If not, it’s a coach or parent. This means that Neanderthals like in the op get away with it most of the time so don’t learn, and the team then copy the adult’s behaviour so are a real handful. These tend to be the sides the refsec appoints to, to try to get them under control.
Teams are often texting round at short notice trying to get someone to do a game for them because someone has called off.
The clubs used to put lads who didn’t get regular games through the course, so they got referees for the club to do the younger teams. The county now takes these over so the clubs don’t usually bother paying for training for referees who won’t stay at the club.
There is a real shortage of referees for youth football round here, so it’s all mostly left to the home team to get them. Those they can get tend to be either very young or very old, so they often struggle to deal with stuff like this.
Teams are often texting round at short notice trying to get someone to do a game for them because someone has called off.
The clubs used to put lads who didn’t get regular games through the course, so they got referees for the club to do the younger teams. The county now takes these over so the clubs don’t usually bother paying for training for referees who won’t stay at the club.
There is a real shortage of referees for youth football round here, so it’s all mostly left to the home team to get them. Those they can get tend to be either very young or very old, so they often struggle to deal with stuff like this.
one
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In Joe's county, high rate of abouse and a lot of games without referees. Can anyone else see the correlation or is it just me?
The leagues with too few referees only have themselves to blame. Stop the referee abuse, make an example of those who try it. Enjoy the benefits in long term. A lot of leagues with too much talk but not enough action.
The leagues with too few referees only have themselves to blame. Stop the referee abuse, make an example of those who try it. Enjoy the benefits in long term. A lot of leagues with too much talk but not enough action.
Just back to the original posting - I have PM Joe about this.
From previous conversations with people involved in the CFA process, they prefer separate reports of misconduct. While they can combine reports into a single charge, they have more difficulty spiting a long single report (like Joe's) into multiple charges.
1. Manager - for entering the FOP and his comments then,
2. Manager - for his refusing to leave the FOP and threatening behaviour
3. B Team - for their post game attitude and behaviour.
I trust the CFA deals with this with the level of seriousness required and the B Team manager is immediately suspended from ALL football.
From previous conversations with people involved in the CFA process, they prefer separate reports of misconduct. While they can combine reports into a single charge, they have more difficulty spiting a long single report (like Joe's) into multiple charges.
1. Manager - for entering the FOP and his comments then,
2. Manager - for his refusing to leave the FOP and threatening behaviour
3. B Team - for their post game attitude and behaviour.
I trust the CFA deals with this with the level of seriousness required and the B Team manager is immediately suspended from ALL football.
Yeah hopefully he gets some sort of punishment. Shame really when you think about it because it's only for the players to have fun it's not like it's the premier league
You shouldn't have to get used to it, that's the thing. I don't suppose you live on the border of another county do you? It could be worth trying out another one if available to you as you shouldn't have to put up with this, on what seems like a weekly basis.
Nah I'm smack bang in the middle of my county and plus I don't have transport myself but I enjoy refereeing and don't intend to stop anytime soon.
Thanks for advice on separate reports I'll use that next time. No doubt I'll probably be doing another in the coming weeks.
Fair enough, was just thinking of potential alternatives. Refereeing is a hobby we all enjoy, abuse is not part of that hobby so it's not fair that you are subjected to this so regularly.
Yeah no ref no game
ladbroke8745
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I spoke with a referee the other day that as soon as he hit 16 years old, he went straight to open age.
He said he'd been refereeing for about a year at this point.
I commend him but I think this is wrong purely because until that point the best he could do was U14. Going from U14 to open age is a huge jump.
He is now going for promotion having just turned 17.
Too much too soon?
Again I commend his enthusiasm and his dedication, but is it too much?
I watched the first 20 minutes or so of his match and barely saw him leave the centre circle. He gave fouls that I felt were not and played on when bad fouls occurred. I put this down to positioning and eventual moaning from both sets of players to let the game flow as he blew for a lot of things.
It depends om the individual whether they cam handle it or not. Some could. Many cannot. As for going for promotiom, I think that will help him significantly. Maybe he had a bad game that day or his inexperience shows through. At least if going for promotion he willl learn the expectations and through observation will have the chance to get advice, learn and develop. There isnt much support after your course otherwise and observations dont usually happen unless you go for promotion or find someone who will give up time to help you.