First red card

[one]

a player that age needs to know what is acceptable. Sadly, the acceptance of language has changed because a generation of referees have chosen to ignore it or treat it as dissent to avoid sending players off.

100%. 13 and 14 year olds have a lot more intelegence that ppl give them credit for and know right from wrong. You give an inch to the entitled generation and they take a mile.

 

[norfolkref]

This bit I diagree with. In my view to send a player off you must have the send off criteria met, in this case OFFINABUS. Match control or settung examples don't qualify as reasons for red card, though I do use them for yellow card within reason.

Yes, and OFFINABUS was met in this example.

 

[one]

Yes, and OFFINABUS was met in this example.

Which I mentioned in my first post. If you felt offinabus was met, you have every right to send him off. Justification with match control reasons are unneccessary.

 

[socal lurker]

Which I mentioned in my first post. If you felt offinabus was met, you have every right to send him off. Justification with match control reasons are unneccessary.

Agree. Though match control reasons can impact the borderline red in one direction or the other.

FWIW, I would have sent off for this without hesitation in a 14U game—indeed in any youth game. But I also realize that F-bombs are more unacceptable on my side of the pond.

 

[PP62]

I think many forget that this is a 13-14 year old. Impressionable and liable to be very much against any authoritative figures like us. It really doesn't in my view, help to send someone this age off for OFFINABUS unless it is about protected characteristics or slurs. They see it and hear this behaviour in most games they watch on telly or even when watching brothers/sisters playing football.

In the situation of OP I probably wouldn’t have produced a red card. However, anything that would be OFFINABUS at open age will still be a red card at 13/14 age group. My late father-in-law used to say “you encourage what you allow” so basically don’t have anyone taking the p1ss out of you. Junior players know what they shouldn’t be saying to the ref.

 

[RustyRef]

As I always used to say to my players when I managed, don't give the referee the opportunity. If you gob off you risk a yellow or red card, if you say nothing you are safe. Different referees will always have different tolerance levels, not sure I'd be sending off for the language used in this thread but that doesn't mean the OP was wrong..