One of the things what is getting on my nerves when im reffing youth football is coaches/spectators calling me out over wrong decisions. Ok I may have called an offside wrong or given a throw to the wrong team etc.. but when both sets of players are accepting the decision ( the players are the most important) then just let me crack on refereeing the game and let them crack on playing.
Coaches not knowing the LOTG
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I've picked many a referee up for shouting got the ball or even worse pointing at the ball after a tackle. You are setting yourself up for a fall as if a player them commits an SFP challenge whilst playing the ball they will invariably remember your previous actions, plus it is perpetuating the myth that any tackle is fine if it wins the ball, which stopped being the case many, many years ago.
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Hmm. I was right there with you until the last comment--I don't think it was ever true. It is true that there used to be language about being a foul to fail to get to the ball first, but (as @Peter Grove alluded to above), that never meant that other fouls could not apply even if the player got the ball first. (That said, it is probably true that the myth used to be closer to being true, but I don't think it was ever true.)
I am 100% unambitous but I am also 100% dedicated to refereeing grassroots football to the best of my ability and I apply the LOTG to the best of my knowledge. I just think that is the minimum expectation for anybody who is a ref and who is taking a match fee at the end.
Common issue this, Big Dave clears the opponent striker out with the kitchen sink gets applauded by his manager, The last thing he’s expecting is a FK or even a card. We’ve all heard the i got the ball stuff, you’ve actually got to turn your ex-player head off and go into ref mode...
the way some referees implemented the hand ball when the law changed i am not surprised they got confused, oh boy
zarathustra
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It should be, but it isn't.
It's not even older referees, I've seen load and loads of referees who pick and choose what laws to apply or how they apply them. Sometimes because "it's only grassroots so I don't need to enforce xyz" other times it is simply for an easy life, i.e. decided not to give a nailed on caution so that he didn't get grief from the team.
That's without getting into referees who give every decision from the centre circle.
Yeah that's been an ongoing problem when I get assigned to the lower levels of grassroots, but is still an issue for me ocassionally at the top divisions as well.
I already made a topic about drop ball, that one is proving really annoying atm.
Funny thing, I watched two games last season where there was a centre circle referee and both times they got no grief at all. Flip it to a match where the referee is running about and all of a sudden everyone's jumping on his back. Just wonder if the players just have lower expectations when they know they have a centre circle ref, or whether the CC refs have the gift of the gab?
zarathustra
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I thinks it's probably a combination of things.
Mainly I recon it's easier to have a go at the ref when he's close to play, where as if he's in the center circle players are less likely to run 25/30 yards to have a go, perhaps the distance also puts them off giving too many controversial penalties etc.
Towards the end of my playing days, I dropped into low level amateur football. Quite alot of older guys who were centre circle refs. They're vital to the continuation of these league's. Alot of these refs weren't capable of getting around the FOP, but it's far better to have them than no ref at all.
Must get cold though!
Must get cold though!
I get "but I won the ball", "that's a handball!! “ every game without fail.
I also had one club lino tell me at the end of one game "oh, by the way, you don't show a yellow card for a sinbin", and before I could answer the manager came up to me, thanked me, and then turned to the club assistant and said "yes you do"
I also had one club lino tell me at the end of one game "oh, by the way, you don't show a yellow card for a sinbin", and before I could answer the manager came up to me, thanked me, and then turned to the club assistant and said "yes you do"
Foul throw today - cue calls of 'he just retakes it surely ref'. Seriously?!
Don't start on throw-ins, the amount of times I've heard "REF, He's spinning the ball!"
And? Goodness me.
Had a fun one yesterday...
Red player head injury, whites in possession. Stop play etc...restart with a drop ball.
Reds want to kick it back to whites, explain that whites get possession not reds. White defender kicks the ball back to his own keeper who picks it up! Typically reds score from the free kick.
Why do players not know basic law changes? Baffles me. If I were a manager I'd make sure my players knew everything at the start of the season.
Red player head injury, whites in possession. Stop play etc...restart with a drop ball.
Reds want to kick it back to whites, explain that whites get possession not reds. White defender kicks the ball back to his own keeper who picks it up! Typically reds score from the free kick.
Why do players not know basic law changes? Baffles me. If I were a manager I'd make sure my players knew everything at the start of the season.
White players, thankfully, just blamed their keeper. Even after I'd sent off and sin binned 2 if their players!
I was hoping red would either, given the ball back from the initial IDFK or let them score from restart, alas not.
Observer suggested I tell the keeper he couldn't pick it up, but no one expected him to pick up an obvious pass from a teammate!
I was hoping red would either, given the ball back from the initial IDFK or let them score from restart, alas not.
Observer suggested I tell the keeper he couldn't pick it up, but no one expected him to pick up an obvious pass from a teammate!
PP62
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Out of interest, what was said so that you sin binned and sent off?
I was yc for reckless today when the player said that's fecking rubbish I got the ball, that's ****e, introduced hand movement. So added a sin bin which turned into a red when he shouted you're a fecking ****. He then squared up to me after the game shouting ****e ref, you're a fecking ***** and when he was pulled off by his teammates, added he can't do anything after the game's finished - I want to punch his fecking face. First time in 25 years I've been abused in this way and ended up leaving without payment.
After the goal was scored from the free kick that led to the dogso red, player called me a *****.