..... Potentially....... He apologised to Wilder, there is nothing potentially about it.... Lets see that new law upgraded next season!!!
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zarathustra
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Did he?
Yes, Wilder praised him for it in his interview....
zarathustra
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Fair enough, all I've seen is still images, so it makes it hard to determine exactly what happened.
Statement of Fact, without reference then
I don't need evidence that you petitioned the FA. I'm quite sure you did. Not relevant anyway
RefIADad
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But sometimes, referees get caught up when the team doesn’t move the ball as anticipated. I know SG1 referees watch a lot of game video to anticipate where the ball goes next. Despite those efforts, sometimes teams go against form.
It stinks, but when there is only one referee and he/she is responsible for the whole field (more or less with NARs), getting caught up with play will happen unless the referee camps in the center circle. I’m sure Kavanagh will review this as a part of his match evaluation. He’s a very good referee, and I would imagine this will be something he tries to improve in future games.
zarathustra
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What are you on about, I haven't petitioned The FA, why would I?
IFAB didn't just decide to add VAR to the laws of the game, the members of IFAB will have voted on it before anything happened.
The members of IFAB are the home nations (The FA, SFA, IFA, FAW) and FIFA(have 4 representative s) who represents the other footballing associations.
Any potential law changes are raised and voted on, six of the 8 votes must be for the change.
Do you think any of those associations just voted it in for a laugh, or do you think that they were being pressured by leagues and club's?
Even then, the premier League clubs had to vote on it being used this season, they could have stopped it dead in its tracks after the trial period in the FA cup etc.
Misread your post. Still, wouldn't have been a surprise to me
Time for me to move on from this exchange
zarathustra
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I wasn't arguing that the spirit of the game wasn't in the laws, I was arguing that if the referee felt the handball was intentional there was no need to use it.
zarathustra
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There was a poll in the papers last year (I think) and 4 out of 5 fans wanted VAR.
The power rests with the Premier League clubs, they voted in favour of its use, so I assume they can also vote to have it removed as it isn't a mandatory part of the laws.
Unless Gillingham get an away game against a Premier League club in either the FA Cup or the Carabao cup it's going to be a very long time before VAR ruins my Saturday afternoons.
The power rests with the Premier League clubs, they voted in favour of its use, so I assume they can also vote to have it removed as it isn't a mandatory part of the laws.
Unless Gillingham get an away game against a Premier League club in either the FA Cup or the Carabao cup it's going to be a very long time before VAR ruins my Saturday afternoons.
PinnerPaul
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Does finishing 2nd, 5th and 5th in the top league not count as being a top club? 1/4 finals of the UEFA Cup as well.
Can think of many 'top flight' clubs who haven't finished in the top 6 of the top league in many a long year nor reached latter stages of a European competition either.
As others have said this really isn't the forum for making cheap (inaccurate) shots about another club.
I genuinely didn't know QPR's history or place in any list of the supposed 'big clubs' so I looked....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_competitive_honours_won
Justylove
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This season the fans are singing "F**k VAR".
2 years ago they were singing "The referees a W****r" and "You don't know what you're doing"
Fans wanted technology because they wanted 2 things:
1) The right decisions 100% of the time
2) Consistency, not just within the 90 minutes, but also across the season with different referees.
Technology is delivering those things, but it's proving to be at the cost of enjoyment of the game for those watching.
However, let's be clear, the real driver for getting decisions right, no matter how long it takes is money. Last season the difference between 8th and 10th in the Prem was almost £6m. Potentially in a tight season a VAR decision could impact final placings.
Then you have decisions that could impact whether clubs get into the CL or not, or at the other end drop out of the Prem entirely.
My view, VAR is here to stay, and will continue to be a source of contention, fans will continue to hate it, but football is protecting commercial interests above all else.
zarathustra
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Some people don't realise or don't remember that football was a very different beast before the premier League and money bags owners came in.
Only 11 of the original 22 teams are still in the premier League, and only 9 of those have been there from the start with no relegations.
Totally agree, you say it more elegantly than me though.
Of course Pawson apologised after the game, there is no doubt that he got in the way and referees will always hold their hand up when this happens even if it isn't always their fault. After all if he tried to claim he didn't get in the way he'd just look silly.
A total of 49 clubs have played in the Premier League since its inception, with (6) Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd, and Spurs participating in every campaign to date.
zarathustra
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My bad, I had to look it up and the article said 9, but was a couple of years old.
Do MK Dons count as an original team, Wimbledon were one of the founding members, but obviously changed to MK Dons later down the line.
There is a thing called 'The Law of Big Numbers'
Each team will face over a hundred KMIs over the course of a season. No one KMI is solely responsible for anything. The problem is psychology. Fans, pundits, players, managers... they all want to pin everything on one incident; usually the most recent scandal. We all do it
The reality however, is that the longer the season goes on for, the less the table is influenced by KMI's. Every season, there'll be winners and losers, but the the variation flattens out as each team faces more and more KMIs. The end result is that the corrections made by VAR, won't count for much because maths largely takes care of it (because the end-result is ironed out without VAR); only without all this hysteria
I'm not on board with, 'fans wanted this' etc. etc.
I don't think I was knocking on the door at my local PGMOL branch. If I was, I've changed my mind. Why can't the masses change their minds too?
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