Championship week 1 incidents

[asperlz]

So looking at the performance of the referee in Birmingham v Ipswich. I thought he started with quite a low tolerance for fouls but came into the game really well. The two major decisions were both controversial but he probably got them both right.

The shove by the striker on Greaves Where he then goes onto score was soft but a foul by the letter of the law. The handball was described as soft and it was close to him. However his hand didn't need to be there and his hand stopped the ball entering a dangerous area while in an unnatural position so for me that was correct as well albeit I can see what it looked harsh.

 

[DavidObs]

So looking at the performance of the referee in Birmingham v Ipswich. I thought he started with quite a low tolerance for fouls but came into the game really well. The two major decisions were both controversial but he probably got them both right.

The shove by the striker on Greaves Where he then goes onto score was soft but a foul by the letter of the law. The handball was described as soft and it was close to him. However his hand didn't need to be there and his hand stopped the ball entering a dangerous area while in an unnatural position so for me that was correct as well albeit I can see what it looked harsh.

For many I reckon the penalty was especially harsh & although his arm was raised at the time of delivery for the first phase of play, once the ball had passed, his arm was level with his shoulders when hit him following the next phase, though where else would his arm be - certainly not by his side!

 

[Cowboy Ref]

The decisions are upon the AR's and referee's discretion. The foul was in the book and no matter how soft (unless no contact) a push will be interpreted as a foul. Handballs will be needed to be reviewed upon referee's and the AR's discretion, plus VAR if availible. Could you send a clip or a photo of those two match incidents if possible?

 

[RustyRef]

For the disallowed goal I thought it was a clear foul, the attacker just barged into the defender. Even more so as Andrew Kitchen had been penalising every bit of minor contact, so there’s no way he could let that go.

I thought the penalty was very harsh. His arm was pretty much where you would expect the arm of someone jumping to be. Add in the distance the ball travelled and the deflection, plus the complete lack of appeals, and it all felt extremely harsh.

 

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Handballs will be needed to be reviewed upon referee's and the AR's discretion

Where did you get this information from?

 

[ladbroke8745]

In the Leicester game, just now, how has the Sheffield Wednesday player avoided a yellow for that deliberate handball? Ref was blindsided, fair enough. Obviously either the assistant or 4O has given it on his behalf via coms, but surely the correct sanction would also be a yellow?

 

[RustyRef]

In the Leicester game, just now, how has the Sheffield Wednesday player avoided a yellow for that deliberate handball? Ref was blindsided, fair enough. Obviously either the assistant or 4O has given it on his behalf via coms, but surely the correct sanction would also be a yellow?

Since when has deliberate handball been a caution? It didn't stop a promising attack, he wasn't trying to score a goal, there's no mandatory caution there. Suppose you could say it was unsporting as he tried to use his hand to keep it in play, but certainly isn't mandatory.

I would have thought the much bigger talking point was the potential offside in Leicester's first goal. Winks didn't touch the ball, but he took a swing at it and was just millimetres away from it, and I'd say it was a stretch to say that didn't impact the defenders.

I'm a Wednesday fan, and aside from the potential offside I thought the officials were fine. Most Wednesday fans are bemoaning Bannan's second caution because he won the ball, but he won it and then clattered into Winks studs up, I said off straight away. Proud of the performance, a week ago it wasn't even clear if the game could be played, and the few players remaining left everything out on the pitch. Ironic that it was the most experienced player, and the captain, who got himself stupidly sent off by getting cautioned for dissent and then diving into a challenge moments later.

 

[DavidObs]

Since when has deliberate handball been a caution? It didn't stop a promising attack, he wasn't trying to score a goal, there's no mandatory caution there. Suppose you could say it was unsporting as he tried to use his hand to keep it in play, but certainly isn't mandatory.

I would have thought the much bigger talking point was the potential offside in Leicester's first goal. Winks didn't touch the ball, but he took a swing at it and was just millimetres away from it, and I'd say it was a stretch to say that didn't impact the defenders.

I'm a Wednesday fan, and aside from the potential offside I thought the officials were fine. Most Wednesday fans are bemoaning Bannan's second caution because he won the ball, but he won it and then clattered into Winks studs up, I said off straight away. Proud of the performance, a week ago it wasn't even clear if the game could be played, and the few players remaining left everything out on the pitch. Ironic that it was the most experienced player, and the captain, who got himself stupidly sent off by getting cautioned for dissent and then diving into a challenge moments later.

For everything Bannan has done right for the club during the past week by standing tall and signing a contract, he has let himself down today with the caution for Dissent, which left him no room for manoeuvre with the tackle. The lack of match fitness & young subs certainly didn’t help things in the 2nd half. I fear for them unless the club gets sold.

 

[RustyRef]

For everything Bannan has done right for the club during the past week by standing tall and signing a contract, he has let himself down today with the caution for Dissent, which left him no room for manoeuvre with the tackle. The lack of match fitness & young subs certainly didn’t help things in the 2nd half. I fear for them unless the club gets sold.

Agree, and in fairness I think he knows that. You can get away with mouthing off at the referee, but start wheeling your arms around and they are backed into a corner and forced to act.

Unfortunately I suspect Chansiri would rather see the club liquidated than accept below what he thinks is an acceptable price for it. He really is that stubborn.

 

[CaptainsPlease]

I was going to ask from the Southampton v Wrexham match should Edwards have been penalised for DOGSO when conceding the penalty for shoving in the back? There was not even a caution given but I personally would have not minded him being sent off given the circumstances and it did not appear to be a challenge for the ball.

 

[RustyRef]

I was going to ask from the Southampton v Wrexham match should Edwards have been penalised for DOGSO when conceding the penalty for shoving in the back? There was not even a caution given but I personally would have not minded him being sent off given the circumstances and it did not appear to be a challenge for the ball.

Certainly should have been at least a caution. Looking at the sequence, Kieffer Moore was about to shoot from very close to goal when Edwards pushed him over. No one was going to prevent the shot without the push, so I would certainly say there was a shout for DOGSO.

 

[Runner Ref]

I was going to ask from the Southampton v Wrexham match should Edwards have been penalised for DOGSO when conceding the penalty for shoving in the back? There was not even a caution given but I personally would have not minded him being sent off given the circumstances and it did not appear to be a challenge for the ball.

When I saw it, my gut instinct was DOGSO. The other defender was hardly covering, as attacker was getting a clear shot on goal from a few yards out, had he not been pushed