Can somebody explain offside please?

[callmemyref]

A defending player who leaves the field of play without the referee’s
permission shall be considered to be on the goal line or touchline for the
purposes of offside until the next stoppage in play or until the defending team
has played the ball towards the halfway line and it is outside its penalty area. If
the player left the field of play deliberately, the player must be cautioned when
the ball is next out of play.

1) How can the defender to be considered on the touchline, can you explain please?

An attacking player may step or stay off the field of play not to be involved in
active play. If the player re-enters from the goal line and becomes involved in
play before the next stoppage in play or the defending team has played the
ball towards the halfway line and it is outside its penalty area, the player
shall be considered to be positioned on the goal line for the purposes of offside.
A player who deliberately leaves the field of play and re-enters without the
referee’s permission and is not penalised for offside and gains an advantage
must be cautioned. -

2)Cautioned when? WHAT IF HE IS NOT PENELASED FOR OFFSIDE AN THEIR TEAM SCORE? GIVE A GOLA AND CAUTION THE PLAYER?
3) Is attacker only considered on the goal line when he re-enters the FOP, not when he is just waiting outside the FOP for the ball to be kicked toward the halfway line?
4) How can he gain advantage?

 

[callmemyref]

What if both the defender and the attacker considered on the goal line?

 

[JamesL]

A defending player who leaves the field of play without the referee’s
permission shall be considered to be on the goal line or touchline for the
purposes of offside until the next stoppage in play or until the defending team
has played the ball towards the halfway line and it is outside its penalty area. If
the player left the field of play deliberately, the player must be cautioned when
the ball is next out of play.

1) How can the defender to be considered on the touchline, can you explain please?

An attacking player may step or stay off the field of play not to be involved in
active play. If the player re-enters from the goal line and becomes involved in
play before the next stoppage in play or the defending team has played the
ball towards the halfway line and it is outside its penalty area, the player
shall be considered to be positioned on the goal line for the purposes of offside.
A player who deliberately leaves the field of play and re-enters without the
referee’s permission and is not penalised for offside and gains an advantage
must be cautioned. -

2)Cautioned when? WHAT IF HE IS NOT PENELASED FOR OFFSIDE AN THEIR TEAM SCORE? GIVE A GOLA AND CAUTION THE PLAYER?
3) Is attacker only considered on the goal line when he re-enters the FOP, not when he is just waiting outside the FOP for the ball to be kicked toward the halfway line?
4) How can he gain advantage?

1 ) If he leaves FOP at the touchline. It's basically saying that if a player leaves FOP to make an attacker offside they are still considered on fop ie touchline/goal line at the point they left.

2) yes he still committed an offence of leaving field of play without permission.

3)he is also considered as on goal line when he is off fop

4) this relates to an attacker, off fop, then coming on onside and then gaining an advantage as per law 11.

 

[callmemyref]

1 ) If he leaves FOP at the touchline. It's basically saying that if a player leaves FOP to make an attacker offside they are still considered on fop ie touchline/goal line at the point they left.

2) yes he still committed an offence of leaving field of play without permission.

3)he is also considered as on goal line when he is off fop

4) this relates to an attacker, off fop, then coming on onside and then gaining an advantage as per law 11.

Thank you.


Can both the defender and the attacker be considered on the goal line?

 

[callmemyref]

2) yes he still committed an offence of leaving field of play without permission.

So if he re-enters and gets the ball in onside position he is still penalised for offside? and yellow if he left the FOP on purpose?

 

[JamesL]

Thank you.


Can both the defender and the attacker be considered on the goal line?

Yes I would have thought they could. And I think that you would have to penalise the attacker off fop if they came on and gained an advantage but any other attacker would be in onside position until ball cleared by defence

 

[callmemyref]

Yes I would have thought they could. And I think that you would have to penalise the attacker off fop if they came on and gained an advantage but any other attacker would be in onside position until ball cleared by defence

Oh, so you mean considered on the goal line as a player not as a team?

 

[JamesL]

Oh, so you mean considered on the goal line as a player not as a team?

Yes. Only that player is considered as on the goal line. The intent of the law is to stop people leaving FOP to move a previously onside player to off. And obviously attackers off field of play randomly appearing back on when defenders rightly don't expect them to

 

[JamesL]

So if he re-enters and gets the ball in onside position he is still penalised for offside? and yellow if he left the FOP on purpose?

Yes, he is moving from an offside position ie the goal line, and then committing a gaining advantage offence.

 

[callmemyref]

Yes. Only that player is considered as on the goal line. The intent of the law is to stop people leaving FOP to move a previously onside player to off. And obviously attackers off field of play randomly appearing back on when defenders rightly don't expect them to

Sorry for too many questions, just find it very complicated and want to understand it.

So if one of the defenders considered to be on a goal line, other attackers can still be in an offside position? or no?

 

[callmemyref]

Yes, he is moving from an offside position ie the goal line, and then committing a gaining advantage offence.

What if a attacker leaves the FOP by mistake, can he re-enter from the touchline and be not considered offside?

 

[JamesL]

Sorry for too many questions, just find it very complicated and want to understand it.

So if one of the defenders considered to be on a goal line, other attackers can still be in an offside position? or no?

Yes, the attacker can't gain an advantage but the defender is playing all other players onside. That is how I interpret it anyway.

What if a attacker leaves the FOP by mistake, can he re-enter from the touchline and be not considered offside?

The law allows a player to leave FOP as part of natural playing movement so if this is what happens then no offence is a possible outcome .

 

[Anubis]

There is a great clip of Ruud Van Nistelroy scoring for Holland in what would be offside but for the opposing defender having went off the pitch
So great I cant actually recall the exact situation, but, its out there somewhere

 

[callmemyref]

Yes, the attacker can't gain an advantage but the defender is playing all other players onside. That is how I interpret it anyway.

Defender considered on a goal line playing all the attackers onside, but if both the attacker and the defender are considered on the goal line, attacker considered on the goal line is the only one who can be penalised for offside?

 

[GraemeS]

Defender considered on a goal line playing all the attackers onside, but if both the attacker and the defender are considered on the goal line, attacker considered on the goal line is the only one who can be penalised for offside?

If you have one attacker and one defender "on the goal line" they they would be equal - but don't forget, the offside line is set by the second-to-last defender, so the line would likely be further up the pitch with the next defending player and the attacker would be in an offside position.

If you had 2 defenders and an attacker "on the goal line" then all 3 players and the goal line would be in the same place, so no offside position.

 

[callmemyref]

Yes, the attacker can't gain an advantage but the defender is playing all other players onside. That is how I interpret it anyway.

The law allows a player to leave FOP as part of natural playing movement so if this is what happens then no offence is a possible outcome .

An attacking player may step or stay off the field of play not to be involved in
active play. If the player re-enters from the goal line and becomes involved in
play before the next stoppage in play or the defending team has played the
ball towards the halfway line and it is outside its penalty area, the player
shall be considered to be positioned on the goal line for the purposes of offside.

It says may step or stay off, if he does in un purpose and doesn't come back in , must he still be cautioned, I thought he was allowed?

 

[callmemyref]

If you have one attacker and one defender "on the goal line" they they would be equal - but don't forget, the offside line is set by the second-to-last defender, so the line would likely be further up the pitch with the next defending player and the attacker would be in an offside position.

If you had 2 defenders and an attacker "on the goal line" then all 3 players and the goal line would be in the same place, so no offside position.

So defenders on the goal line are above attackers?

 

[GraemeS]

So defenders on the goal line are above attackers?

No, I don't think it helps to think of it like that. The attacker must be beyond the offside line - if all are even then nothing has gone past the line.

 

[callmemyref]

No, I don't think it helps to think of it like that. The attacker must be beyond the offside line - if all are even then nothing has gone past the line.D

Didn't get you...

 

[GraemeS]

Didn't get you...

Offside position is explicitly defined as "any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponent's goal line than [...] the second last opponent".

"Nearer" is the important word here. If 2 defenders and an attacker have all gone tumbling off the end of a pitch together than the law you quoted in your first post specifies that we consider them all to be exactly on the goal line. So it's therefore impossible for any of them to be nearer the goal line than any other player, because they're all effectively in exactly the same place - so the attacker cannot possibly be in an offside position.