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At what age level do you start calling foul throws?

Dino Ref

Dino Ref

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Just interested in hearing what others do since I've reffed U12's who can't take them and U8's who can.
 
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The FA Guidance on this has a couple of attempts for u8 and u9 and then an underarm throw. IIRC u10 and u11 non-competitive gives 2 attempts by the same player and then goes to the oppo. All about educating the players.

From then, u11 competitive games and all u12 and above are only one attempt as per LOTG. However, round my way, a lot of young refs don't give foul throws at all and as they never attend local RA meetings or get assessed, I end up suggesting they start giving foul throws. Hopefully a crackdown on this by the CFA and RA will help remove this problem.
 
Viking said:
What other LOTG don't you bother about?
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Perhaps other things that are trifling? TIs just aren't that important, they just get the ball in play. I'm not looking for bad throws, I let them find me and the ones that need to be called tend to be obvious. One caveat: when a player is going to make a long throw (making the TI an attacking element rather than just getting the ball in), I will be more demanding about the form of the throw.
 
socal lurker said:
Perhaps other things that are trifling? TIs just aren't that important, they just get the ball in play. I'm not looking for bad throws, I let them find me and the ones that need to be called tend to be obvious. One caveat: when a player is going to make a long throw (making the TI an attacking element rather than just getting the ball in), I will be more demanding about the form of the throw.
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Yip, dont go looking for issues, u 11 and the throws poor and nobody cares, why should you?
Ffs I covered a u13 girls and her team were 7/8 down, she picked up from a throw from a team mate, should be idfk, nobody cared, i played on, blew for ht, gave her a wee reminder, coach thanked me for doing so....game management
 
As soon as it is a sanctioned competition for me.

But... I do give a lot of leeway, if it is 'close enough' I'll let it go and I'll apply that all the way up, for example in the reserves because don't forget, at grassroots a lot of people are playing for fun - I had one game this weekend with a short, chubby lad who couldn't throw to save his life, but he was trying his best and no one really gave a hoot.

If it is the senior leagues or the standard is higher than the bare basics of grassroots then I will be all 'letter of the law' type, but then foul throws at that level are something of a rarity.
 
As somebody has already said, throw-ins are just a means of getting the ball back into play. I tend not to worry about them unless it's so obviously bad and there are several appeals. Especially with kids. Play on!! :cool:
 
socal lurker said:
Perhaps other things that are trifling? TIs just aren't that important, they just get the ball in play. I'm not looking for bad throws, I let them find me and the ones that need to be called tend to be obvious. One caveat: when a player is going to make a long throw (making the TI an attacking element rather than just getting the ball in), I will be more demanding about the form of the throw.
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Have you ever thought that you might be part of the reason why so many referees get abused? I suggest you follow the LOTG. That is your role in the beautiful game.
 
Viking said:
Have you ever thought that you might be part of the reason why so many referees get abused? I suggest you follow the LOTG. That is your role in the beautiful game.
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Have you ever thought that you might be part of the reason why so many referees get abused? I would suggest you get a modicum of understanding of the SOTG--including the fundamental concepts of doubtful and trifling. That is what makes it the beautiful game.
 
spuddy1878 said:
Think thats harsh and uncalled for.
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What, for suggesting the LOTG are upheld? Very much called for I think. What else do you let go? That little pull on the shirt? That 2 footed lunge because he didn't really mean it? Refs who don't, make it worse for the rest. I suggest you call a foul throw accordingly and educate the players as per the FAs officials guidance and the RESPECT campaign.
 
Ciley Myrus said:
there is knowing the laws

and knowing the game


the 2 are so far apart
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You missed the one about just 'making stuff up'. Some of your comments disturbingly fall into that category. The LOTG are there for a reason. Not for you to make stuff up.
 
Viking said:
What other LOTG don't you bother about?
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Just the less important ones.....being picky about foul throws is a little counter productive.....if it's close it'll do. I learned this from premiership football refereeing.......
 
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