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Appointments (official / unofficial)

The Ginger Ref

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Level 7 Referee
I’d be interested to hear the thoughts of the forum, though I’ve worded this carefully as I know some colleagues from my CFA may have seen this interaction.

A club sent out an email this week to "all league referees" asking if anyone was available to officiate their game next weekend. The email also suggested that there would be many more opportunities to referee for that club moving forward. The ref sec rightly stepped in, explaining that the proper process for assigning referees is through them. Fair enough, right?

However, this is where things get a bit muddied for me, as the email also stated that referees shouldn’t be taking games through these unofficial arrangements.

Without labouring this point too much this year 🤣, when I first qualified, I was essentially left to find my own qualifying games. I relied on Facebook referee groups and contacting clubs directly, which seemed to be the standard and recommended process unless you were already affiliated with a particular club.

From a club’s perspective, there simply aren’t enough referees to cover what feels like 300-400 games each weekend. Inevitably, they have to rely on parents. But many clubs are also aware that some referees might be available at short notice. For example, I’ve picked up games last minute after being contacted directly by teams I’ve officiated for before. I typically block out dates with the league if I’m unsure about my availability to not cause an issue, but sometimes I find I’m free and can still take a game on a Friday or Saturday.

As we all know, thousands of games go ahead every weekend with unqualified referees, qualified "club" referees, and more often parents stepping in. I’m part of a Facebook group where referees regularly take on games "unofficially." We’re talking about Sunday youth football here, where referees are volunteering their time (as has been described on this forum). Is it unreasonable for referees to prefer officiating at a local club just five minutes away, knowing they could potentially referee two or three games in a day, rather than enter the lottery of being sent all over the county to clubs that may not be as welcoming?

I do recognise that this could raise concerns about fairness and potential bias. But, as the saying goes, "life isn’t fair," and I don’t believe there’s a widespread issue of biased or corrupt refereeing at grassroots level 🤣.

To be clear, I have no issue with the official availability and appointment process — I know that when I’m available, I’ll always be assigned a game. If anything, I know my only chance of getting a cup final is by being officially available through the season. However, it does feel like there’s a significant conflict here that needs to be addressed.
 
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Of the leagues I referee in:

Two don't allocate at all so it's down to the club to sort
One does allocate, but there aren't enough referees to go round and plenty of games are therefore "club/volunteer"
One allocated with almost, but not quite, 100% coverage

In addition to that, I occasionally take games via YesRef but there isn't much space Saturdays & Sundays in my diary with the other four. I can sympathise with a Ref Sec not being happy with a club sending a mass email, or appointing their own ref when ones been allocated (that happened to me, and team got fined and had to pay me fee) but doubt you'd have an issue at all taking games by invitation/request when you can.

Reality round here is that there are nowhere near enough refs at grassroots level (hardly a surprise) around here, so they're all clamouring for refs from a relatively small pools, with the good young-uns quickly, and entirely understandably, moving up the promotion ladder.
 
This is an issue I used to face as a RefsSec, I had pretty good coverage but occasionally couldn't get a referee for specific games. It was down to the home club to find a local referee, clubs generally accepted this and usually found someone.

Where there was conflict was when I'd appointed a referee but the club chose to use their own referee. This wasn't acceptable and a league appointed referee should also take precedence over one found by the home club. Assuming the appointed referee told me their services had been rejected, and they usually did, I'd then have to contact the home club and tell them to accept my appointment. Usually they did, but on occasions they refused to, and a few times I had to get the fixture's secretary to step in and postpone the game.
 
This is an issue I used to face as a RefsSec, I had pretty good coverage but occasionally couldn't get a referee for specific games. It was down to the home club to find a local referee, clubs generally accepted this and usually found someone.

Where there was conflict was when I'd appointed a referee but the club chose to use their own referee. This wasn't acceptable and a league appointed referee should also take precedence over one found by the home club. Assuming the appointed referee told me their services had been rejected, and they usually did, I'd then have to contact the home club and tell them to accept my appointment. Usually they did, but on occasions they refused to, and a few times I had to get the fixture's secretary to step in and postpone the game.
I resigned recently from a league that replaced me with another referee without informing me and I turned up at the game. Needless to say I didn't get a reply to my resignation email to the league. The RefSec has had numerous problems with this particular league to the extent they will not recommend new entrants to sign up. I don't think a lot of folk realise the relationships between RAs and Leagues can be very rocky and it is the teams that play by the rules that suffer.
 
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I resigned recently from a league that replaced me with another referee without informing me and I turned up at the game. Needless to say I didn't get a reply to my resignation email to the league. The RefSec has had numerous problems with this particular league to the extent they will not recommend new entrants to sign up. I don't think a lot of folk realise the relationships between RAs and Leagues can be very rocky and it is the teams that play by the rules that suffer.
Very disheartening and seems a sorry state of affairs. For anything to work as it should, everyone needs to work together.
 
I resigned recently from a league that replaced me with another referee without informing me and I turned up at the game. Needless to say I didn't get a reply to my resignation email to the league. The RefSec has had numerous problems with this particular league to the extent they will not recommend new entrants to sign up. I don't think a lot of folk realise the relationships between RAs and Leagues can be very rocky and it is the teams that play by the rules that suffer.
Did you get a confirmation from the home club, if you don't I would never recommend end turning up without checking the game is still on and you are still the referee.

It depends how this happened. If the home club appointed you directly and the league subsequently appointed someone from the league panel, then the club are at fault. Whereas if they league appointed you and then subsequently replaced you without any notification of this then obviously they are at fault.
 
I officiate 2 leagues (excluding academy football):
The first covers 100% of their games with 3 officials on each game (in both divisions), with officials often left over (unless there are too many unavailable officials - this is rare)
The other constantly changes system, but the current one is as follows:
1) Volunteer for games you want/are available for when they appear on full-time
2) a week or 2 ahead of the fixtures, they allocate the rest (or as many as possible) to officials that haven't closed the date - some officials end up with 4 or 5 back-to-back youth games as a result
3) the rest are picked up by refs or sorted by clubs
Both systems work well, but I'd say the easiest is the first one. Official appointments should always take priority in my opinion (there is usually a reason these games have an appointed official and others don't!), but I don't see an issue with picking up games last minute.
 
If you pick up appointments directly from clubs, ensure that the clubs / league / competitions are affiliated to the local CFA.. Discipline would difficult for the CFA to enforce and there may be Insurance issues if not.
 
Did you get a confirmation from the home club, if you don't I would never recommend end turning up without checking the game is still on and you are still the referee.

It depends how this happened. If the home club appointed you directly and the league subsequently appointed someone from the league panel, then the club are at fault. Whereas if they league appointed you and then subsequently replaced you without any notification of this then obviously they are at fault.
The league states that if you aren't contacted you still turn up to the ground, this also applies to the away side! But yeah, either the league or the club and league decided I wasn't to be the ref.
 
The league states that if you aren't contacted you still turn up to the ground, this also applies to the away side! But yeah, either the league or the club and league decided I wasn't to be the ref.
I’m all for contacting a club if they haven’t contacted you, to avoid having to turn up on the day cos to only find out that you have been replaced. This would be more than frustrating if happened to me.
 
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