You sir, are an idiot. Well playedNext we'll be abandoning matches when people emotionally abuse us
He called me fat.. That hurts my feelings... Game off!!! Toughen up man!
I'd only abandon a game if I felt like I had no other choice. I wouldn't give an idiot the satisfaction of abandoning a game based on their behaviour! Why should everyone suffer because of one or two individuals?
your refereeing colleagues salute you
Definitely.
And now, in keeping with the manner of the thread, after that horrific assault on David's feelings, I think that this thread should now be abandoned.
People agreeing with padfoot and his generic black-and-white-holier-than-thou- arguing? Refereeing truly is in trouble.
There are a few on here who keep running back to "a little girl who kicked a big hard referee" when the discussion has moved on. The same people who haven't experienced an assault. Cool, have your fun. Let's hope you don't end up on the receiving end eh?
Probably the same idiots who don't report such incidents as assault, just let it go. Well she had her red card... Hmmmm the guys who create problems for colleagues through their weakness.
Let's get some perspective and let's go back to the little girl kicking a referee scenario. The big hard grown men on here saying "never abandon". That's fine but let's flip it - It is a 16 year old female referee kicked, what do they do then?
Come back with some black and white argument lads. No need to break from form.
(Edited due to the original being a little harsh!)
I think that Mr SM is having a bad day. There can be no other explanation!
Not speaking as a staff member - Speaking as a referee who sees a very misguided referee happy to let down colleagues. saddens me.
amusing yet informative.
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. I think we are all agreed that a referee should abandon a game if he feels physically or mentally incapable of continuing after an assault. Would seem likely that this is more likely to happen if working at grass roots without colleagues around. And I've heard a number of convincing arguments (though by no means unanimous) against abandoning purely to increase the ban given to the player.
This already answered your post mate.I don't feel let down.
(Just putting that out there
Alright, maybe his sarcasm might have come across as somewhat flippant, but I think he's generally argued his point well, just as Padfoot has. Isn't the whole idea of this place based on an open exchange of views and perhaps a bit of banter?
I shall try to play my usual role as peacemaker and bringer of compromise
For me, the interesting 'grey area' is one where the assault is such that the referee in question feels ok to continue but can well imagine that many other referees would not feel the same way. As a (purely hypothetical) example. Player pushes me hard in the chest after being red carded. I'm surprised but not hurt and feeling particularly confident that day can rise above his idiocy. But know deep down that other (smaller, less experienced, less confident, younger etc) refs would be in bits .. that's where I personally would be tempted to abandon, to protect other refs from experiencing the same behaviour and send out a clear and immediate message to all present about the unacceptability of that action. Who's with me?
I'm fine with banter, I can dish it out as much as the next person. I can also take it quite well.Yep. Seen. Fair point well presented.
I think David just feels it was a little more than banter that's all.
Shall we tell him to "man up"
Lightweight
Couldn't agree more. At a gig on Sunday and was physically confronted by a buff little fellow who wanted to barge past me and the Mrs. I'm no Mr Bean (5'10", 250lbs, qualified door supervisor and ex-rugby league prop forward) and when I stood up to him and successfully suggested he find another route through the packed audience, it left me on edge for 36 hours.
