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  1. Engin Ataman

    Opinions needed

    the ball went out for a goal kick but defender caught up to it (he just did not touch it since it was going out which is very clear in the video, no need for the stills :) ), if the defender can catch up to the ball, the attacker could definitely catch up too. i agree with your #1 since...
  2. Engin Ataman

    Opinions needed

    they are behind him at the time of goalkeeper contact. yes close, but behind.
  3. Engin Ataman

    Opinions needed

    and this is the next milisecond after goalkeeper's kick takes him down (benefit of VAR again) The ball would be within his reach...all he would have to do is kick it in the empty net but he was down. if you say this is yellow, then you agree that goalkeeper is fouling him. If he is fouling him...
  4. Engin Ataman

    Opinions needed

    whether he (goalkeeper) got the ball first or not, after this second (i am not saying many referees could judge this liveview, we have the benefit of the VAR on this one) ball is still in the play advancing towards the goal, goalkeeper's reckless action slows down the attacker (which he was...
  5. Engin Ataman

    delete a thread?

    is there a way to delete a thread you created because it was duplicate?
  6. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

    The ball bounces from his foot right after the yellow jersey "plays" the ball. Does it count? If this happened on a goal line and he blocked the ball going in then he would have been celebrated :) not disagreeing with you though just pointing how much room for judgement can there be in this game.
  7. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

    of course... Like Richard Dawson (my post #26) was explaining, lot's of factors to consider and like you are saying, decision has to be one or the other "available" option. I am just reiterating that Referee can communicate in such a way to fill in the gaps when a "gray" area comes up.
  8. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

    next time i will put the orange option in the poll :) I kinda assumed (my mistake) most would agree with yellow or no card in this case.
  9. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

    I remember during a referee conference, speaker was talking about orange cards... meaning yellow and a stern warning (and kick him out first chance you get). These types of tackles remind me that... in this case warning would be for both players though...
  10. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

  11. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

    I really appreciate all the input. It is fun to see what everyone thinks.
  12. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

    IMO yellow would be ok since black jersey comes in a bit more reckless and with more power and he is seeing what yellow player is about to do (this is totally subjective of course). However I also think both players are committing some sort of recklessness. Yellow jersey eyes on the ball and he...
  13. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

    sorry this is all i got, but i agree, full speed is important to see. This also makes me wonder when VAR referees watch, how they consider the full speed replay vs slow motion... i guess that might depend on the situation on hand.
  14. Engin Ataman

    Red Yellow or No card

    What do you think? Red - Yellow - or No Card? Thank you
  15. Engin Ataman

    red-yellow-no card

    just pointing out how it could turn the other way if green/white did not expose his studs towards the other player during a swing and a miss situation like this :)
  16. Engin Ataman

    red-yellow-no card

    I would like to add a twist to this, since the blue/yellow completely misses the ball, if his kick did not end up to white player's studs but ended up kicking anywhere else, like white player's leg. thighs etc... would it be caution to the yellow/blue then? and for those of you who wants non...
  17. Engin Ataman

    red-yellow-no card

    https://www.fenerbahce.org/videoplay.asp?v=pic_lib/video/ek-video-2-kirmizi-kart-pozisyonu.mp4 simple one here. red or yellow or no card? Was yellow on the field.. Thank you...
  18. Engin Ataman

    Red or Yellow?

    hello, regarding the recent rule change for DOGSO... Should the following penalty be also a red card since green jersey drops the white jersey and it was not because he tried to play the ball.... First 15 seconds of the following video...
  19. Engin Ataman

    Red, yellow or no foul? please vote and comment

    sorry I thought the youtube link had a clear one i do not know if the quality decreased later on or what :) above link is the original link from beinsports. thank you all for you input.
  20. Engin Ataman

    Red, yellow or no foul? please vote and comment

    http://tr.beinsports.com/lig/super-lig/ozet/2017-2018/7/akhisar-genclikspor-1-0-fenerbahce-mac-ozeti contact made is at 2:14. striped player makes contact with the ball first and white player misses as mentioned above. Then the contact between two players happens. If white player's foot has...
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