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  1. Russell Jones

    Man Utd vs Man City

    You're right. For simplicity, I find it easier to consider 'Challenging for the Ball' along with 'Playing the Ball' but it is the easiest clause in Opponent Interference. I'm totally with you that hindsight makes everything far easier! Getting decisions correct on ANY field is tricky...
  2. Russell Jones

    Man Utd vs Man City

    Understand your POV .. but completely disagree :) . On field, this is not an either / or decision, you need to make both. And the Fernandez one happens first. In the 'non VAR' world that we inhabit, immediately deciding that Fernandez has committed an offence takes away all the pressure from...
  3. Russell Jones

    Man Utd vs Man City

    There’s understandably and rightly a great deal of focus on the VAR side of the offside decision. Understandably because a system that was introduced to correct glaring howlers, has, in this instance, in fact created one! In that context, no surprise to see VAR and AVAR have been stood down...
  4. Russell Jones

    60+ assistant referee

    Generally speaking, the biggest physical challenge to achieving this outcome is passing the sprint portion of the fitness test. 30m sprints in 4.7 seconds is increasingly difficult as time passes. Whereas passing the 75/25 run at 15s/20s remains ok if you are in good physical shape.
  5. Russell Jones

    Maguire hb yay or nay

    I think he could reasonably expect it to hit him in the face not the chest … and I’m not sure any player at any level should be expected to just run the risk of that occurring …..
  6. Russell Jones

    Rolling Ball Restart - Advantage

    I think the biggest benefit of the overall Law change will be the ability in Youth Football to sometimes allow play to continue from the multitude of genuinely foul throws ….
  7. Russell Jones

    Crewe goal

    No, there is nothing in Law that says this. As for lack of respect ITOTR, this could literally be used to justify a caution for ANY player action .. Yellow Card for picking your nose anyone?! :) More seriously, players incorrectly appealing for restarts, falling over under minimal contact...
  8. Russell Jones

    Crewe goal

    We have not established that this could be USB in any meaningful way. We just have the opinions of a variety of posters, many / all of whom have never worked at this level of football. I believe it is ok for the player to do this because it is not clearly outlawed anywhere within the LOTG...
  9. Russell Jones

    Crewe goal

    'Hiding' on the pitch but behind the GK would be equally "sneaky and unsporting". But we wouldn't even be having this discussion if that's what the attacker had done. The reason we are discussing it, is because he was off the FOP. But the reality is,he left the FOP in a legitimate manner and...
  10. Russell Jones

    Rescinding yellow card after game

    No this is not allowed. If, post game, the referee genuinely believes he has made an error in law, he should submit the cards as usual but then send a note to the relevant County FA with his reflections.
  11. Russell Jones

    What does immediately after mean?

    My opinion is 100% no ... on 2 counts. Firstly, I don't see it as a penalisable handball offence. Secondly, even if you choose to give a handball, unless you believe it has stopped the ball going directly into the goal, then there is no Goal Scoring Opportunity as the striker is never going to...
  12. Russell Jones

    What does immediately after mean?

    Very fair. Certainly if they've gained a significant advantage and you're unsure about the 'deliberateness' then safe refereeing would be to give the FK! But if you're sure it was accidental, then to give a FK for an 'easy life' is weak refereeing IMO.
  13. Russell Jones

    What does immediately after mean?

    I think many football stakeholders would agree with you .. it's fair to question whether a player should gain an advantage from the ball hitting their hand / arm. However, how I justify the current approach is to say that (ignoring the OP 'goal' exception) it is completely fair that we only...
  14. Russell Jones

    What does immediately after mean?

    That's fair. Happy to say it's the player's choice to put his hands there to protect himself. If he did this AFTER the ball was kicked, you could make a case for a deliberate handball (though still harsh IMO). But given it was done before, we're then only considering whether that choice made...
  15. Russell Jones

    What does immediately after mean?

    I think we see it the same :). I totally agree that he has put his arms there because he knows / fears that the ball is about to be blasted straight at him. Which is why I can see the argument for the arms being seen as in an unnatural position ... though, personally, I instead see it as a...
  16. Russell Jones

    What does immediately after mean?

    The player has put his arms there before the ball is kicked, therefore a deliberate handball (ie arm to ball) is not possible. I can understand an argument that the arms are in an unnatural position. However, the arm position has absolutely not made their body ‘unnaturally bigger’ .. if the...
  17. Russell Jones

    What does immediately after mean?

    But at least on 80+% of handball decisions it's a simple binary subjective decision between whether or not the hand / arm in question is in a natural position for the body movement being undertaken. For me, the biggest handball issue is the vicious circle where players appeal EVERY time the...
  18. Russell Jones

    What does immediately after mean?

    I do find it interesting that when deciding ‘obviousness’ we have now been given 5 factors to consider but with ‘immediateness’ we are left to our own devices! For what it’s worth, I’d see the OP as immediate. But the video is great as it forces a choice around immediacy as there’s no way that...
  19. Russell Jones

    Dutch Referee Blog - Scottish ex-FIFA referee Bobby Madden shares his go-to fitness exercise

    Realistically, the key thing here is the multiple repetitions of 'fast' 400m, rather than the specific time achieved which will vary hugely from person to person. It's just an effective (and punishing!) way to ensure anaerobic workouts are added into the overall mix.
  20. Russell Jones

    FA cup

    Ratetheref might provide a short term alternative whilst MOAS is playing up?
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