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I recall while watching the clip with the incident, the referee also gives a yellow card to the Valencia goalie. Or was it overturned? The ref went back to the VAR box and also handed a red card to Vinicius. Goalie's pat was on the back and it didn't look like what you would call violent...

Valencia's GK did start the heat. Rann his hand his hand over Vini. Vini takes his head off. Red card. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the pat. It seemed more passive that violent. Vini just straight overeacted and slapped the keeper's face. OBVI violent conduct. Bro literally slapped the guy in the...

In U.S. they set limits for tempetures 20-108 degrees F. I assume y'all have something similar. I think that the pitch is what matters. Otherwise the league would call it off. Tell the county FA bout the incident. I'm sure they'll do something bout it.

Yeah, I have. I play for comprtitive club. But what confuses me is that whenever I receive a handball the referee calls it. Unless, its arms behind, the ref will call it. I incorporate those experiances into my rulebook, so it kinda sticks.

I didn't know there was one in US. I just assumed it was in UK. Didn't know that league didn't handle it. What is the county FA? I know that the FA is the English football administration, but a county one? How is English refereeing organized?

Just an advantage in general. I think it kinda is unatural. Hard to tell. The arms seem pretty spread out beyond his body. But I can see how it could not be a handball.

Seems like a unatraully bigger position to me. No. 7 is literally touching ball with hand. It also gives him an unfair advantage with the hand. 🫱⚽

From that POV, i'd say its a handball. It seems like the Newcastle player made his body unatraully bigger. He did expand his arm away from body. I don't see how its not a handball.

Vini had to be restrained by Rüdiger and the GK coach out of the stadium. Violent conduct is my decision for Vini pushing the Valencia keeper face. No other category to place it in.

Can you show us a specific clip of it or bring out some details?

Well, I was a little unsure bc of how brutal it was. Like it was a bit overly aggressive, and he didn't actually try to beat up his face or actually punch the man. It was more of scrubbing his hand over the Valencia GK face. But I'm just confused about the classification because it OBVI its a...

Can we get on topic instead of debating which opinion is the best? I don't like how this conversation has taken a turn...

It was bad behavior. Vini's slap on the keep's face was pretty intentional. It was a big outburst that was suited for a red card. The keeper seemed to be intimidating him at first with a pat on the back. Vini reacted and smashed the Valencia keep's face. I'm not sure whether it falls under...

I didn't consider the box length. :hmmm:😓

The fines, suspension, and proccess are the league's responsibility. it does have an effect whether you turn in the incident in your match report or not.

Yep. In U.S. its also not heavily regulated and the refs only regulate the distance of the wall if the taker asks for ten yards or if the wall is so near they can use their common sense to tell. But for attackers being one meter away, they even let them stand next to the wall! Not a lot of...

You should set the standard wall ten yards away from the kick (really depends on age group). They could set the wall with as many players as they want. You could away with this at youth level, but it would attract criticism at a higher level. These other defenders could sprend wherever in the...

Instead of that, it said it was a penalty. 🧐

Well, the approach is similar in U.S. The ref or AR regonizes the abuse. If its an AR, he holds his flag up to have a word with the ref. The ref speaks with the coaches to determine which team the parent is from, and the coach asks the parent to leave. Game does not restart until parent is in...

It also applies in law for child abuse and neglect.