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Classic offside lesson

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And c’mon! Professional coaches have that little clue about OS?!?! In a moderately competent youth game I’d expect the coach to be explaining to his players why the R was right and telling them to get on with it.
 
A surprisingly large % of match officials would get this wrong.
Some due to simply not knowing the laws and others due to not being switched on.
 
bester said:
A surprisingly large % of match officials would get this wrong.
Some due to simply not knowing the laws and others due to not being switched on.
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Really? You really think any significant number of referees don’t know 2LD?? I’d think it a horrific miss by any AR past a 10U game. (I can see it more by an R working solo, not from not knowing the Law, but because the R has a lot going on and in the transition could be difficult to remember/focus on the fact the GK was up.)
 
The biggest mistake is the attacker, all he had to do was delay his run by a fraction of a second and he'd have been in his own half. Or his team mate who didn't need to pass the ball, he could have just carried on running, although they'd probably have then still stuffed it up by passing to the other attacker who would have been ahead of the ball.

Utterly baffling how professional footballers can so badly misunderstand the offside law. There should have been several red cards shown by the referee after that.
 
RustyRef said:
Utterly baffling how professional footballers can so badly misunderstand the offside law. There should have been several red cards shown by the referee after that.
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I had the sense from his reaction that the OS player realized what happened when the whistle blew—he didn’t immediately vent at the AR.

Agree on send offs. I imagine the R may have wanted to just get it done and off the field and thought reds would cause things to blow up again even worse.
 
It's actually a trickier decision than it initially appears, because the player who receives the ball is only very fractionally over the half way line when it's played, although it is indeed correct.
 
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RefereeX said:
It's actually a trickier decision than it initially appears, because the player who receives the ball is only very fractionally over the half way line when it's played, although it is indeed correct.
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Which may be the actual reason behind the protest. The protest could have been because they were saying he was in his own half. Wrong either case.
 
RefereeX said:
It's actually a trickier decision than it initially appears, because the player who receives the ball is only very fractionally over the half way line when it's played, although it is indeed correct.
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Kind of agree, but the counter argument to that is the AR had the half way line as reference so should be fairly easy to see he was offside.
 
RustyRef said:
Kind of agree, but the counter argument to that is the AR had the half way line as reference so should be fairly easy to see he was offside.
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But not necessarily for the coaches/players/fans. It was closer than I thought, perhaps in part because the initial angle doesn’t show the OSP attacker at the moment the ball was played. But in reflection, I can see how someone who knows the Laws looked at the attacker (who was then in his own half), looked away to where the ball was hoping for the long ball, and had no idea that the attacker had crossed the halfway line before the ball was kicked. Still doesn’t excuse the behavior, of course, but does make it a bit more understandable.
 
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But not necessarily for the coaches/players/fans. It was closer than I thought, perhaps in part because the initial angle doesn’t show the OSP attacker at the moment the ball was played. But in reflection, I can see how someone who knows the Laws looked at the attacker (who was then in his own half), looked away to where the ball was hoping for the long ball, and had no idea that the attacker had crossed the halfway line before the ball was kicked. Still doesn’t excuse the behavior, of course, but does make it a bit more understandable.
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True, we don't know what they were specifically complaining about, but I suspect you are giving them too much credit. Far more likely they just didn't realise offside is based on the second last defender.
 
Could be. I just have trouble believing someone could get to coaching at that level and not understand that basic concept. It’s unusual, but it’s not that unusual.
 
socal lurker said:
Could be. I just have trouble believing someone could get to coaching at that level and not understand that basic concept. It’s unusual, but it’s not that unusual.
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Still think you are giving them too much credit. This was a rare offside situation, I'd compare it to when people in football claim it can't have been offside because the ball was played backwards. I've even seen referees get that one wrong, and that's the issue when you get decisions that don't happen very often.
 
bester said:
Neither side or officials clocked this. Step 3 some of the players and coaches are ex-peo

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That's poot position from the AR. Ehat is he doing there? He is about 10 yards out of position.
This is even more complex than the other one. All elements come into play, is he behind second last defender, is he in his own half, as well as is he behind the ball. And it fails on all elements.
 
Agree. The AR had absolutely no hope from.thst start position. And he's miles ahead of play the whole way down too - never recovers.
 
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