Arsenal v Crystal Palace (EFL Cup)

Have to say, not his biggest fan (but that's because until recent years his foul detection has been quite poor I feel, remember a blatant elbow to face in his early EFL days where the player fouled actually got a broken eye socket yet he got penalised!) but I felt Atwell had a good game last night.
Hate to say this, but life without VAR and officials do the job on the pitch very well.

Anyway... only sticking point is "what is the 4th official doing if not stopping this"?
Palace have a late throw, and as per usual with Arteta, he is out of his technical area moreso when opponents are close by - in this case trying to take a throw in.
The 4th official never went close to him.

Also good a stopping promising attacks.

I get that they’re “managing an event” as much as officiating a football game but somebody needs to be brave and caution him for it, and if he continues then give him a second caution. It’s the most blatant example there is of “clearly/persistently not respecting the confines of their own team’s technical area”.

Not about bravery. It’s about what the powers that be want. They obviously are not being told these are expected/desired cautions sendoffs.

socal lurker said:

Not about bravery. It’s about what the powers that be want. They obviously are not being told these are expected/desired cautions sendoffs.

Click to expand...

I agree, more thinking that the powers that be dont want their poster boys looked at wrong (thats not implying bias, just that these are the ones bringing money in to the league by means of clicks on posts etc which is creating more for sponsorships and, there you have it, sponsorships soar).

The two images above show Arteta blocking a potential run up for a throw in and near enough squeezing the Palace player out from challenging for the ball efficiently with an actual player the other side of him.
Without Arteta there, the palace player may be able to move a little more freely away from his opponent by not feeling closed in, running on the line, even if slightly off (which technically, though seldom looked at, is against laws by leaving without permission) the pitch to gain that better position whilst running if trying to get around his opponent.

ladbroke8745 said:

which technically, though seldom looked at, is against laws by leaving without permission

Click to expand...

A player who leaves the field of play as (normal) part of play or to restart play is never cautioned for leaving without permission. It is not explicitly worded in law but it is implicit and part of it's intent/spirit.

ladbroke8745 said:

I agree, more thinking that the powers that be dont want their poster boys looked at wrong (thats not implying bias, just that these are the ones bringing money in to the league by means of clicks on posts etc which is creating more for sponsorships and, there you have it, sponsorships soar).

The two images above show Arteta blocking a potential run up for a throw in and near enough squeezing the Palace player out from challenging for the ball efficiently with an actual player the other side of him.
Without Arteta there, the palace player may be able to move a little more freely away from his opponent by not feeling closed in, running on the line, even if slightly off (which technically, though seldom looked at, is against laws by leaving without permission) the pitch to gain that better position whilst running if trying to get around his opponent.

Click to expand...

I agree, more thinking that the powers that be dont want their poster boys looked at wrong (thats not implying bias, just that these are the ones bringing money in to the league by means of clicks on posts etc which is creating more for sponsorships and, there you have it, sponsorships soar).

The two images above show Arteta blocking a potential run up for a throw in and near enough squeezing the Palace player out from challenging for the ball efficiently with an actual player the other side of him.
Without Arteta there, the palace player may be able to move a little more freely away from his opponent by not feeling closed in, running on the line, even if slightly off (which technically, though seldom looked at, is against laws by leaving without permission) the pitch to gain that better position whilst running if trying to get around his opponent.
[/QUOTE]

one said:

A player who leaves the field of play as (normal) part of play or to restart play is never cautioned for leaving without permission. It is not explicitly worded in law but it is implicit and part of it's intent/spirit.

Click to expand...

Law states "A player who crosses a boundary line as part of a playing movement does not commit an offence" so next time perhaps the opposing player will run into Mr Arteta . . .?

ChasObserverRefDeveloper said:

I agree, more thinking that the powers that be dont want their poster boys looked at wrong (thats not implying bias, just that these are the ones bringing money in to the league by means of clicks on posts etc which is creating more for sponsorships and, there you have it, sponsorships soar).

The two images above show Arteta blocking a potential run up for a throw in and near enough squeezing the Palace player out from challenging for the ball efficiently with an actual player the other side of him.
Without Arteta there, the palace player may be able to move a little more freely away from his opponent by not feeling closed in, running on the line, even if slightly off (which technically, though seldom looked at, is against laws by leaving without permission) the pitch to gain that better position whilst running if trying to get around his opponent.

Click to expand...

Law states "A player who crosses a boundary line as part of a playing movement does not commit an offence" so next time perhaps the opposing player will run into Mr Arteta . . .?
[/QUOTE]
As an AR I've certainly barged managers and subs out of my way, if yelling "off my line" didn't work.

bloovee said:

Law states "A player who crosses a boundary line as part of a playing movement does not commit an offence" so next time perhaps the opposing player will run into Mr Arteta . . .?

Click to expand...

As an AR I've certainly barged managers and subs out of my way, if yelling "off my line" didn't work.
[/QUOTE]

There is a tournament I have worked that has a great rule. Teams and spectators have to be on the half of the touchline without the AR. It’s great. (Common around here to have rules that put teams on opposite touchlines, which makes this kind of rule more practical.)

Had a coach in the fa cup last season that didn’t take heed of several warnings. When sprinting out from a goal kick I may or may not have ran through him like a freight train. It worked as he didn’t leave his technical area again

Ross said:

Had a coach in the fa cup last season that didn’t take heed of several warnings. When sprinting out from a goal kick I may or may not have ran through him like a freight train. It worked as he didn’t leave his technical area again

Click to expand...

Been there, done that. He deserved it