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Redref34

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Hi all

I had to show the club assistant referee a yellow car for dissent today (names substitute on team sheet). I sent him to the bench and made someone else take over the flag. Correct thing to do or could he continue to run the line?



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socal lurker said:
I’m certainly not keeping someone as a CAR after I cautioned him for dissent. And that doesn’t have anything to do with sin bins.
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Out of interest as I can’t remember, does a sin enter sin bin therefore can’t come on for 10 mins or not?
 
So theoretically you could have a situation where a player and a substitute are carded for dissent at the same time, one has to go off the pitch for ten minutes but the other can come straight on.
 
Redref34 said:
So theoretically you could have a situation where a player and a substitute are carded for dissent at the same time, one has to go off the pitch for ten minutes but the other can come straight on.
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No I am fairly certain in that situation a substitution procedure cannot take place until the player has served their timed suspension.
 
Hilly1618 said:
No I am fairly certain in that situation a substitution procedure cannot take place until the player has served their timed suspension.
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The player sent to the sin bin cannot be replaced until their 10 minutes is up. However, a substitute that is cautioned for dissent can be bought on whenever the manager wishes as their dissent is not punished with any kind of sin bin.
 
Redref34 said:
So theoretically you could have a situation where a player and a substitute are carded for dissent at the same time, one has to go off the pitch for ten minutes but the other can come straight on.
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Potentially yes, though as pointed out above only substituted for a player other than the one binned. It's a bit of a loophole in the laws but I don't see it as an issue. Any manager who subs in a substitute straight after they have been carded for dissent is not a very bright one.
 
Just imagining the scenario on a Sunday. Right player 1 you go off for ten mins. Player 2 you can’t run the line but you can come in the pitch. Player 3 you go off because you’re being subbed off. Carnage.
 
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Any manager who subs in a substitute straight after they have been carded for dissent is not a very bright one
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This has happened to me twice interestingly. Bet you can guess what happened to both of them 😂
 
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Which option do I select for reason why he was not placed in sin bin? ‘Caution was not issued in play’ ??
 
Hilly1618 said:
No I am fairly certain in that situation a substitution procedure cannot take place until the player has served their timed suspension.
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This is C2 no sin bin. Sin bin can only be given to an active player on the pitch. There is no timed suspension attached and they can replace a player at anytime after the card.
 
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