Bournemouth vs Wolves
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This may be stupid, and not saying its not red, but how is this any different to the MLS one from few weeks back?
I think it is different because the tackler is less in control of the action as a result of leaving the ground, although the contact itself isn’t dissimilar.
I’m surprised it reached the threshold for VAR intervention, despite the fact I don’t necessarily think a red is wrong. Both prem red cards this weekend being given as yellow on field.
Not even close to being similar. He's lunging, off the ground, gone over the top of the ball, and there is far more than glancing contact half way up the shin.
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Answers on a postcard please boys and girls!
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As a side note, he’s wearing some of the greatest referees kits in history there.
Well the MOTD pundits perhaps unsurprisingly disagree with this being a red card and in fairness to Shearer I do see his point that the point of contact from the Bournemouth player is caused because hia foot slipped from contact with the ball.
I'm in two minds with this because contact was high and the touch of the ball is of course irrelevant at times but there was not alot of force in the tackle and if Lewis Skelly finally got away with it then I think the Bournemouth player could count himself rather unfortunate.
Its ones of those where I think referees will understand more why this is SFP than fans and pundits will.
I'm in two minds with this because contact was high and the touch of the ball is of course irrelevant at times but there was not alot of force in the tackle and if Lewis Skelly finally got away with it then I think the Bournemouth player could count himself rather unfortunate.
Its ones of those where I think referees will understand more why this is SFP than fans and pundits will.
This is where there should be two tiers of SFP- one match ban and 3. The argument is that it is up to the player to remain in control of their bodies - but also this argument works for both sides, as sometimes unfortunate things happen.
Will be interested to hear more on this tomorrow on Ref Watch. I’m clearly far too biased.
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1 & 3 match bans don’t really have anything to do with it, as they are competition based. There would need to be a global agreement on this (which I doubt you would get)
You may well have just gone down in history as the only person ever to say they’re interested in what Ref Watch has to say
Haha! It’s entertaining - not necessarily insightful.1 & 3 match bans don’t really have anything to do with it, as they are competition based. There would need to be a global agreement on this (which I doubt you would get)
You may well have just gone down in history as the only person ever to say they’re interested in what Ref Watch has to say
Seems quite rare these days for a referee to produce a straight red card for SFP but of course when a referee does make a "brave" decision(Michael Oliver), he gets hammered by everyone so in one way I don't blame them for going a safe yellow first and then see if VAR gets involved.
In fairness to Michael Salisbury though, it's probably one of those that don't scream out to be red card in live play so I can understand him thinking it's more reckless than dangerous.
We've done this topic over and over. If you think a referee does this, either consciously or subconsciously, then of course that's your opinion that you're entitled to believe, however I can tell you factually that if the referee gets it wrong on field it still goes against them as an incorrect KMI, so you'd think they'd rather try and get the decision correct first time than 'play it safe.'
I think the first season of VAR, there was quite a high amount of yellow cards on field upgraded to a red via VAR which either gives the theory referees were playing it safe(as downgrading a red to a yellow would probably look more of an error) or the threshold for SFP was exposed via VAR.
There is definately less yellow cards being upgraded to a red compared to then but some of that is perhaps down to less intervention but I still get the impression some refs may sub consciously play it safe or failing to recognise SFP. Also style of play in the PL could be a factor as I feel there is less mistimed bad tackles compared in the past.