What are peoples opinion on this challenge and resulting red card in the Europa League match?
Europa league doesn’t use VAR. I definitely think he has had a word in his ear to change from yellow to red. I noticed originally he reached for his short pocket (presuming the yellow was in there) to give a caution, but then takes a few seconds and issued a red.Player goes in high, cleats forward. From the replay angle most like the R's it looks like his studs makes contact with the calf of the opponent. That would be an appropriate red. But other angles seem pretty clear that there was no contact from the cleats to the opponent. Given the advantage of other angles, I think yellow would be the better call.
I'm most intrigued by the lack of urgency between the whistle and the card. That makes me think that he was initially thinking yellow (or even no card?) and getting feedback in his ear that made him change to red. I'd love to hear an explanation of the R's thought process throughout.
Is Europa League using VAR?
I think in the end this is a very good decision. I think you both (and initially me) missed the studs to the top of the knee (immidiately after the frame below). Then white player's left foot pushes the black players foot forward making it hard to see contact. Another sign of contact is the slight jarring of the knee at the time of contact.
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It's quite clear watching the video that there is no contact with the knee.I think in the end this is a very good decision. I think you both (and initially me) missed the studs to the top of the knee (immidiately after the frame below). Then white player's left foot pushes the black players foot forward making it hard to see contact. Another sign of contact is the slight jarring of the knee at the time of contact.
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Really? I'm fortunate to work in a team frequently with the same ARs (and 4th if we have one) and if one of them told me it was a red and I saw this afterwards I'd be livid.Do you know the heart break I felt watching the clip and it was Collum? Absolutely devastated I tell you.
can definitely see why assistant or 4th has called it a red.
No we are doing still images to establish point of contact as per VAR protocol which allows slow mo for the same. For the life of me I can't get that on my phone as it falls between two frames.Are we really still doing still images to prove the merits of a decision? I think the Arsenal disallowed goal vs Leicester shows you why that's a bad idea.
I didn’t say I agreed or that it was a good call. Far from itReally? I'm fortunate to work in a team frequently with the same ARs (and 4th if we have one) and if one of them told me it was a red and I saw this afterwards I'd be livid.
I think in the end this is a very good decision. I think you both (and initially me) missed the studs to the top of the knee (immidiately after the frame below). Then white player's left foot pushes the black players foot forward making it hard to see contact. Another sign of contact is the slight jarring of the knee at the time of contact.
I didn’t say I agreed or that it was a good call. Far from it
No we are doing still images to establish point of contact as per VAR protocol which allows slow mo for the same. For the life of me I can't get that on my phone as it falls between two frames.
Yes. Based on one viewing that the officials would have also had.But can you really see why the AR/4O called red?
Fair enough - we'll have to disagree!Yes. Based on one viewing that the officials would have also had.