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Any thoughts on the 'snicko' drama yesterday?

It looks like a glaring error from this new technology? There is a spike, but then no spike immediately after it when the defender heads it.

To me, it looks like the technology was out of sync!
 
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Just from the video then you can't be sure so would have to go with no touch.

Have to rely on the sensors in the ball, and correct calibration of the pictures

Presumably they don't register off if it hits a hair strand, otherwise you'd got false positives if it hits an insect or dander in the air
 
On the US version of these boards, several non-referees claimed the Portugal touch was a deliberate play. Out of all the possible issues, I think referees can all agree that it’s clear that play is interpreted as a deflection and does not reset offside.
 
bester said:
Just from the video then you can't be sure so would have to go with no touch.

Have to rely on the sensors in the ball, and correct calibration of the pictures

Presumably they don't register off if it hits a hair strand, otherwise you'd got false positives if it hits an insect or dander in the air
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Just need the image of two spikes due to two points of contact, which there isn't. So it's out of sync/calibrated incorrectly.

This then opens it up to further questions. Is the technology for close offsides working as expected? What about goal line technology?
 
RefIADad said:
On the US version of these boards, several non-referees claimed the Portugal touch was a deliberate play. Out of all the possible issues, I think referees can all agree that it’s clear that play is interpreted as a deflection and does not reset offside.
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It was appalling defending.

I'm not actually sure what he trying to do, certainly not head the ball away.
Maybe duck out of the way.
 
That's a very rare bit of honesty.

Someone I know who is in the know said that there is absolutely zero doubt the technology is correct and there was a touch
 
I think you can see from the pattern of the ball the trajectory does change but it's very slight so yes the contact would be from his hair and if the Croation player was bald, we might of had a penalty shootout instead of a disallowed goal.

So yes the right decision was made and the tech backs it up. Not sure why the ref was bought to the monitor, maybe to sell the decision or be able to explain it better to the players?
 
Paul_10 said:
I think you can see from the pattern of the ball the trajectory does change but it's very slight so yes the contact would be from his hair and if the Croation player was bald, we might of had a penalty shootout instead of a disallowed goal.

So yes the right decision was made and the tech backs it up. Not sure why the ref was bought to the monitor, maybe to sell the decision or be able to explain it better to the players?
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Might have been brought to the monitor to confirm deflection compared to deliberate play. That’s really the only possible subjective part of this play I can think of.
 
“I think it was a disgusting robbery. In the replay the ball doesnt change speed, direction and even the rotation doesn flinch the slightest, so how did it affect the play? Even in the replay from the byline there is a clear gap between the ball and croatian players head.

What i find frustrating is that in basically every other knock out game, people are not talking about how amazing the decisive play was but baffled at the var decision that determined the outcome. It is not football, it is a spectacle of non game officials masturbating over the power rush they have deciding the games. A quick fix IMHO would be that both teams can put a guy with a 9mm in var booth to ask the officials, "are you sure you want to check it?"”

Reposting with kind permission of the author, a third year referee. While I wouldn’t use the same turn of phrase, I overwhelmingly agree with the sentiment. VAR as implemented has been and is rubbish.
 
Numpty Croatian subs sprinting down the line celebrating like lunatics again. When will they learn FGS!?
The chip in the ball detected a deviation caused by a strand of hair, a gravitational wave from a far off Super Nova explosion or maybe the boundary zone very close to the player's head. Which is a thing in aerodynamics... the Croats clearly did not account for when embarrassing themselves
 
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That's a very rare bit of honesty.

Someone I know who is in the know said that there is absolutely zero doubt the technology is correct and there was a touch
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They'll be a necessary sensitivity limit on this technology. There will always be the risk of false positives and if they try and eliminate them then they'll get false negatives
 
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