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Wirtz goes down after Trossard takes him out.

Presumably not given because of a heavy touch

Wirtz was then yanked up off the floor by an Arsenal player while the ball was in play...
 
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On a similar theme - could you justify a red at the end for Martinelli for endangering the safety of an opponent? Pushing a player who’s down with a potentially serious injury is very poor form
 
On a similar theme - could you justify a red at the end for Martinelli for endangering the safety of an opponent? Pushing a player who’s down with a potentially serious injury is very poor form
That annoyed me more than anything in football has annoyed me for a long time. It was so obvious he was seriously injured, to try and push him off the pitch was absolutely disgraceful. Whether it could be classed as VC I'm not sure, but it certainly should not be happening and I'd like to see the FA take retrospective action.
 
On a similar theme - could you justify a red at the end for Martinelli for endangering the safety of an opponent? Pushing a player who’s down with a potentially serious injury is very poor form
Is that the same player who deliberately moved himself back onto the field of play?

Martinelli deserved his card, but probably wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t shuffled himself back on to the pitch 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Is that the same player who deliberately moved himself back onto the field of play?

Martinelli deserved his card, but probably wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t shuffled himself back on to the pitch 🤷🏻‍♂️
No he didn't. He was already on the pitch when he first went down in any case, he just readjusted his position. If you have torn your ACL, which I suspect he has, the last thing you are thinking about is stopping play from restarting.
 
Is this the same Martinelli that felt a brush of contact and fell in the area, staying down (game stopped when Saka went down with head injury in own defending half with Liverpool in possession outside the area), holding his leg when literally no contact was made near the leg?
When he is a saint ill start acknowledging him more.
 
Is this the same Martinelli that felt a brush of contact and fell in the area, staying down (game stopped when Saka went down with head injury in own defending half with Liverpool in possession outside the area), holding his leg when literally no contact was made near the leg?
When he is a saint ill start acknowledging him more.
Yes the same , there was a slight knee in the back of his calf , but certainly never a penalty nor did it warrant him staying down as long as he did.
 
On a similar theme - could you justify a red at the end for Martinelli for endangering the safety of an opponent? Pushing a player who’s down with a potentially serious injury is very poor form

Grabbing and pushing the injured leg of an opposition player knowing it will cause significant suffering cannot be seen as anything but violent conduct.
 
Think there is a massive overreaction online about this.

These are Slot's comments and a manager speaking sense:

Arne Slot: "I don't know Gabriel Martinelli but he comes across as a nice guy.

"The problem for him, and it's a problem in general in football, is that there is so much time-wasting in the final parts of games that sometimes you can be annoyed when you want to score a goal and you feel a player is pretending to be injured.

"I'm 100 per cent sure if he knew what the injury might be, he wouldn't do that."


On radio this morning, again some sense. It's like the boys who cried wolf... So many players fake an injury and crawl onto the pitch to waste time. Unfortunately, on this occasion it might actually be an injury.
 
Exactly ! that was an incident waiting to happen. Of course, I don't like seeing the player seriously injured, but I hope the world of football can somehow learn from this. The cheating / gamesmanship culture has got to stop and this is a perfect example of why. I'm sure Martinelli wouldn't want to harm a player with a serious injury, but the culture (and they all do it) has created this situation
 
Thought the Martinelli behaviour was absolutely shocking. Think the YC is correct in law, although I think anyone in football wanted a RC!

This is directly because of play acting from players though. Players MUST take responsibility because it’s becoming a ‘cry wolf’ situation now. Faking head injuries at some levels of the game, screaming like you’ve been shot when you are indeed, fine. It makes our job difficult, but even players misread it, as seen yesterday.

I think Martinelli is probably very embarrassed at himself now, but this is part of the wider issue in our game.

Just my humble opinion.
 
as a football player and fan i understand the sentiment (although wouldnt be something i'd have done!
If that happened back when I played I'm pretty sure someone would be getting hurt. As was usually the case I'd be the one trying to calm it down, but I'm pretty sure punches would be thrown. Not just in the past, I reckon if that happened on Hackney Marshes on Sunday morning it really wouldn't end well.

Emmanuel Petit said the same today, if that had happened when he was playing there would have been violence. If not through a punch someone like Keown or Viera would be going right through him at the first possible opportunity
 
If that happened back when I played I'm pretty sure someone would be getting hurt. As was usually the case I'd be the one trying to calm it down, but I'm pretty sure punches would be thrown. Not just in the past, I reckon if that happened on Hackney Marshes on Sunday morning it really wouldn't end well.

Emmanuel Petit said the same today, if that had happened when he was playing there would have been violence. If not through a punch someone like Keown or Viera would be going right through him at the first possible opportunity
Oh 100%

Probably very lucky it was so late in the game otherwise someone was taking him out
 
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